And that fact probably explains why teen pregnancy rates are so much higher where you live.
Not just their own interest in sex, either.
My daughter is very interested in anime. That interest + the internet meant she got exposed to hentai very early on, safe search and NetNanny notwithstanding. This is before she was at all interested in sex. And she’s also into cosplay - but there’s a huge cosplay/porn crossover space that I would not trust any firewall to completely cover.
Never mind the older boys bringing skin mags into school (this still happens, apprently, despite all this points at free porn on internet). Or passing around a tablet/phone with porn on it.
This stuff is out there, and kids are exposed to it. Whereas the teacher’s OF isn’t something they can access casually/incidentally.
True. And for that matter, the first porn i saw was before i had any interest in sex, but a girl in my scout troop had an older brother who had some dirty magazines, and of course we all looked when his sister pulled the magazine out from under his mattress…
Or, for that matter, my daughter’s Internet search of “Caligula”.
It is funny, because while browsing this thread after several days of not reading it, and thinking about the “studies finding early exposure to porn damaging” point, I was thinking about how “porn” is a very broad concept and some would be far more damaging than others, and as mainstream examples I was thinking of a kid seeing 9 Songs verses seeing Caligula. Seeing 9 Songs, even though graphic, doesn’t seem to me like it would be particularly damaging at all, but Caligula could seriously fuck a kid up for life, and definitely you should keep away from kids at all costs. And, arguably, adults.
Wymer! This is for your benefit. Would you kindly wake up? I’ve no intention of going through this all again.
I was thinking about maybe starting a separate thread to discuss whether porn is even harmful, and I’m sure “what’s in the porn” matters to that discussion.
I wonder to what extent it matters to this discussion. And also, i have little idea what kind of porn the teacher produced.
I think it’s a category difference between naked pictures or drawings and video of sex acts. Regular usage of the later is becoming a problem for adult relationships, to say nothing of children.
You were asked:
I don’t see how “a category difference” between pictures and video answers that question in any way.
Are you saying that if the teacher only posted pictures of herself having sex, there’d be no issue?
Sure. Pictures, statues, and video are all different media, and people interact with them in different ways. I understand a common kink in classical Rome was being turned on by statues, and wanting your partner to simulate being a statue.
I don’t see how that is relevant to where the shame comes in in my question.
Also, i think the distinction of what is being portrayed probably matters more than the medium. Is it vanilla sex? S&M? Sexy shoes? Scat play? Furry? Is anyone degraded? Are the body parts realistic? You can portray any of those in a variety of media.
But I’m not sure that’s relevant to this discussion either.
Well for those who are strongly supportive of the job security of a teacher who also is a porn performer, is there any specific sorts of porn that would cross your line?
@Left_Hand_of_Dorkness I believe had drawn a line for outside of school actions that informed that a teacher might be ineffective for some students, such as participating in something racist. While porn is not categorically misogynistic (despite a strongly held position earlier in this thread that it was), some definitely is, and I am sure racist and/or rape fantasies are played out in some sites as well.
I honestly can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.
I’ve gotta try this. Just don’t tell my wife where I heard of it, she’d be humiliated.
And lots of incest fantasies. I often look in on a torrent site that has a page listing the 100 most recently added torrents, not filtered by category. There is always a whole lot of porn, which often has “interesting” titles. One title I saw a few days ago was “Watching My Daughter Go Black”. (No mention if she would ever go back.)
(Incidentally, a large amount of that is apparently ripped from Onlyfans. A search for that term comes up with 25 pages of 40 per page. I’m sure that even 1,000 indicated only a limit on the search, not the full extent of the content.)
I hope this guy doesn’t have a teaching job!
Oh, it was a thing.
This is disturbing. Look at any mainstream porn site and a good chunk of the titles are about step-brothers/sisters/fathers/mothers. I have no idea why this idea has so much apparent appeal, but … ick.
It also has nothing to do with this thread. And I’m the OP, dammit. 
It has to do with this thread because that is the world of OnlyFans. I do not think that OnlyFans and porn need to be part of a sex education program, much less have a discussion about a staff member of the school being on OnlyFans.
I do believe that the massive amount of porn access, because of the Internet, is problematic for adults. Porn addiction is a real thing and a real issue. It is exactly the same issue we had when alcohol became mass produced.
Sex is a different category from alcohol, and realistically much touchier and impactful on human brains. Sex education programs need to educate children to the world, differences. They do not need to be normalizing any sort of porn. Porn is not needed, and we are just getting into the problems of the massive amount of porn consumption that wasn’t possible in prior societies. Parents deserve a neutral discussion of sexual issues and normalizing porn, the visual depiction of sex acts that I am assuming this teacher is doing, needs to be out of the schools. It’s too far, too early. It’s not asking a lot for teachers to not be sex workers and post movies of sex acts on OnlyFans. It really, really isn’t. If you need to do work appropriate for adults only, don’t work with kids. Not asking much at all.
No it isn’t. I was talking about mainstream porn performed by professionals.
Who on earth (let alone this thread) has proposed anything like this?
While true, it also (like my post that you’re responding to) has nothing to do with teachers performing in it.
Again, on what planet are sex education programs utilizing porn of any kind?
Other posters have argued that students need to be taught that porn is normal and natural.
Cite?