LAZombie posts this hot nonsense:
I mean, what the fuck?
An almost universal human trait is to impute one’s own sins and frailties to others. Liars think other people are liars. Cheaters think others cheat. Haters think others hate. LAZombie would probably have been delighted if one of Obama’s military actions got sabotaged by right-wingers.
Your wrong because your belief system is not based on evidence.
It’s very simple : Republicans put party before country (and, as of late, Trump weeeeell before party) ; therefore they assume the same is true of everyone else, ergo Democrats must put harming Trump well before party, itself leagues ahead of country.
It’s of course demonstrably wrong, but it’s easy to follow.
Fuck that noise, don’t be as bad as him. As shitty as his post was I’m not going to accuse him of rooting for America to fail.
You know all those times when Trump says something ridiculously false, and so clearly made-up that you ask yourself what kind of weak-minded simpleton could possibly be gullible enough to fall for such obvious horseshit?
Well, you have your answer.
You can’t fix that. That is based on noting that has ever happened. All you can do is make a note to self about who said it, and remember that.
And just how would they do that? Is the implication that the DNC has a hot line to ISIS?
The reason for shit stirring is to stir shit-it doesn’t need logic and/or reason. The first post in this thread is the exact response he wanted.
Y’all say “Oh, nothing like this has ever happened”, but what about the Bowling Green Massacre? Surely y’all haven’t forgotten the Bowling Green Massacre?!? (Never forget!) And how Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez blabbed classified information to the Failing New York Times and the Fake News Washington Post which prevented our brave Special Forces guys from preventing that awful, awful tragedy back in January of '17. Never forget!
OK, smart-assery aside, I’m really not sure what the answer to the question posed in the OP is. My best guess is that the Democrats need to beat Trump like a rented mule next year, and inflict major losses to the Republicans in Congress and at every level of government–a real Presidential landslide, with large coattails. And then Hypothetical Democratic 46th President of the United States of America has to be sufficiently popular (and therefore competent and effective, and also politically savvy) to prevent the Republicans from roaring back in the '22 mid-terms the way they did in 2010. (Which will necessarily also involve the Democratic Party electorate getting off its collective ass and actually showing up for a mid-term election in sufficient numbers.)
And I also admit I haven’t seen any evidence that the Democrats are going to manage to pull any of that off. They may–may–beat Donald fucking Trump next year, but only just by holding the “blue states” and taking back enough of the “purple states”. When they ought, by all reason, to be poised to sweep all the “purple states” and start flipping a bunch of the softer “red states”.
Just to be clear, if everything in my fantasy were to come true–President Pete Buttigieg taking Texas or some crazy shit like that–there would still be idiots like LAZombie out there (For ye have the damned fools always with you), but if the Republican Party experiences enough pain (or not even enough pain, given the damage they’ve inflicted on the country, but a large amount of pain) then it will cease to be politically profitable to pander to the bigots, xenophobes, mindless haters, conspiracy-mongers, beady-eyed religious loons, “culture warriors”, and other deplorables who walk among us, at least for a few generations.
It’s a fucking cult, and it’s a very real threat. You can’t cajole, convince, browbeat, or ANYthing with them.
“Reasoning will never make a man correct an ill opinion, which by reasoning he never acquired: for in the course of things, men always grow vicious before they become unbelievers.”
- Jonathan Swift -
You’re right, and I knew this as I clicked Submit. :o
I just get so sick of the right-wing imbecility, lies and hatred that I lash out. I apologize to you and the Board’s other rational thinkers. I won’t apologize to the scumbags.
The sad thing is that LAZombie’s position is all too common among Trumpers. They really believe “their” president has done nothing wrong, and it’s all a left wing plot to discredit him/steal power/otherwise accomplish nefarious things. People like that will not listen to reason, and they reject any information that doesn’t fit with their peculiar world view. I dunno how you fight that level of willful dumbassery.
Start winning elections ?
I think LAZombie’s position is that it doesn’t matter if Trump does wrong because the only “right” is winning. Fucking over enemies is winning. Getting away with it is winning. Not going to jail is winning. Pissing people off is winning. Not having to hide hate with the thinnest veneer of decency is winning.
There is no fixing it. Instead of worshiping a golden calf, the cult worships an orange jackass. This cult of personality is every bit as extreme as the cult of Kim in North Korea. Actually, it’s worse because North Koreans have no resources for objective truth, the MAGAbots have the resources but refuse to use them. I’m afraid that deprogramming the cult is nearly impossible, the only cure for most will be embalming fluid.
And that mindset just boggles my mind. It’s as if almost everything I’ve believed my entire life is irrelevant. Honor, integrity, honesty…none of that shit matters anymore. The world has passed me by. I’m a dinosaur, and my killer asteroid is long overdue…
Who, or what, is LAZombie? Is that a poster here, or something? 
Republicans of today would argue that they are using the political system to their advantage, and that the Democrats would do, and have done, the same thing when they’re in power. There’s a shred of truth to that; however, Democratic interests are more concerned with distribution of wealth and power, whereas Republicans seek the concentration of these resources. A related point is that the concentration of wealth and power is an undemocratic idea, as it promotes the politics of competition, with victors receiving the spoils and then deciding how whatever’s left will be distributed.
I think there has always been and always be a class of people that favors competition over cooperation, and promotes greed over fairness. What has changed in my lifetime is that the generations of people who lived in a world based more so on the value of cooperation, having lived through the searing experiences of the Great Depression and WWII, are now gone. In their place are generations of people who’ve grown up with abundance and who consequently value cooperation less than their predecessors.
Republicans are probably not the majority in terms of the marketplace of ideas, but they stopped competing on that battlefield a while ago; they’re concerned with power for the sake of having it.