How do you shut a cat up?

The Turbo Scratcher?

Mine found it intermittently interesting, but not a long term attraction. The uber-cheap Cat Dancer is the all-time favorite, followed by Da Bird.

Right there with you. I grew up with two siamese sisters that never shut up. I have a Maine Coon mix now that’s constantly walking around the house talking.

I get the feeling Cuervo would too, but something from his baby-hood, probably a nasty URI he had when he was rescued - makes it seem painful for him to vocalize. But his face says he has plenty to say.

He’s a cat cat. The kind you get for “free” ($280 so far) from under a porch.

The other cats love the ball track thing toy - they don’t always play with it but they dig it when they do. Dewey likes to fetch his stick, and Edison chases things like hair clips and balls. I will try Stokie on the cat dancer, as that’s always popular, but ideally he’d be playing on his own.

I don’t put him in another room because 1) he needs to get along, 2) the poop thing - I am damned tired of washing indeterminate cat… something off of the bathroom rugs and other assorted textile surfaces. It’s easier to keep track of him in the living room at this point.

Well, he may have something there. Behaviorists have long understood the relationship between cat density and behavioral problems. One cat in a household has “x” likelihood of exhibiting objectionable behavior. Bump that up to 2 cats in the household, and the increase in “x” is minimal (likely due to some positive factors).

But when the number of cats in a household reaches three, the likelihood of objectionable behaviors jumps significantly.

Interesting. Is that all behavioral problems, or anything specific? The existing cats have not exhibited anything unfortunate, except Eddles hissing at the new guy.

Just statistical observations that have been noted by many behaviorists. You could have 12 cats in your house and no behavioural problems, or a single cat in a household that has many behavioral problems. But statistically speaking a huge jump in likelihood happens at “3”.

Also, “objectionable behavior” is a very general term. More often than not, the term refers to inappropriate elimination behavior (or as my clients tend to say, “pissin on the rug”).

So, what kind of dynamic goes on at the Crazy Cat Lady’s house, the one with 24 cats? Does she just not mind that they’re pissin’ on the rug, or is there some kind of feline critical mass reached after you get past the magic number of 3?

Should Zsofia get another cat, IOW?

:smiley:

[only partially kidding]

some black cats have a bit of siamese. my winken the wonderful did, mostly in the face and build. she was not talky through.

stretch the superduper is a siamese mix but doesn’t talk much. koritsa the kuddley is the talky girl and she is a recent rescue. she is the cat that cries wolf.

it could be the outside cat coming in thing. perhaps he likes the sound of it and the attention? does he do it near walls were it echos back?

He does it near walls, he does it near the fish tank, he does it when looking at butterflies, he does it while rolling around on the floor. The only time he doesn’t do it is when he’s a) asleep, or b) snuggling.

It would seem likely then, assuming a clean bill of health by the vet and no other symptoms of serious stress, that he is just a talky cat. Some are. Was he talkative when he was a “porch cat?” Howabout when he goes to the vet?

If he is just naturally a Siamese-level talker, you’re likely screwed on that front. I doubt anything reasonable is going to dissuade him. Unless you can snuggle him nonstop during movie time. I seem to recall you’re already using feliway to calm Edison?

:stuck_out_tongue: :smiley: :o :wink:

Hey I only thought it; I didn’t actually say what I was thinking!

Our meezer Vir is relatively quiet by Siamese standards, and our Maine Coon tortie Heidi hardly ever talks unless she can see the bottom of her food dish.

As my husband has frequently noted, “free” cats can cost more than purebreds from a breeder.

Tamerlane, yeah, I think my daughter did get a Turbo Scratcher for the cat. Mere loves that thing, but one has to consider that Mere really isn’t too bright. She’s been known to get lost in the bathtub.

Zsofia, I think that you just have an exceptionally chatty kitty. Maybe he wants to watch the Big Cat Diaries.

I’ve been to lectures given by mental health professionals who discuss the recognized human mental illness termed “collectors”. The term “collector” replaces the previously accepted term “hoarder” (aside: Why TF do we have to constantly change accepted terms? /aside).

I have been in homes that housed hundreds of cats. Homes that have not been cleaned in years, with dead and rotting carcasses lying under stacks of mail and pizza boxes. The occupant of the house taken away in restraints as (s)he argues that they love their cats.

More info:
Cat Collectors

More on cat collectors

I feel bad for the people who used the term before it became a disease:
The “other” cat collectors

Maybe you need to watch movies with Stokie on your lap. He’s snuggly, he’s quiet, you have a lap-warmer.

StG

Oh, you guys, it was the saddest thing last night. We brought out the cat dancer (we have to hide it and had kind of forgotten about it) and of course the other cats mob it and don’t give Stokie a chance, but I also found in that cabinet some little “weebles wobble” kind of feather toys, which Stokie loved in a “fine, guys, I’ll just play over here by myself. This toy is cooler anyway” sort of way. It was the first time we’d seen him play with anything! So of course all the activity gets all of them riled up, and he goes to try to play and roughhouse with them, and they were assholes to the poor little guy. I mean, I know they all know the rules - Dewey and Edison wrestle all the time, and I saw Stokie wrestling with his brothers on the porch, but I guess you have to be careful about who you let in to your kitty wrestling game, as you play with all of your skillz and none of your weapons, as it were. Somebody could get hurt. But it was so sad - he just cried and cried about it. We picked him up but that was obviously a poor substitute to having kitty friends.

Himself’s theory is that he used to talk to call his brothers to play with him, and now he talks because he’s lonely and nobody will play. Poor little fellow. We gave him extra belly rubs. (Himself kissed him on the nose and gave extremely sweet ear snuggles, lest you think he has no heart.)

Cats can be a lot of things, but moral isn’t one of them. They are territorial predators by nature and while they are facultatively social, to them I’m sure he still remains “the intruder”, despite being only half-grown. Further they can get jealous and he might also have picked up the tag of “that little suckass who is always crawling into mommy’s lap.” They might ( probably will ) get past it with time, but they also might not. I once had two cats that entered my life about four years apart ( one was a stray that just moved in one day ) and they remained frosty towards each other for the rest of their lives.

The great majority of adult cats seem to initially react adversly to new introductions, though again most get over it with time. I suspect one of mine might be an exception to the rule and wouldn’t be a little asshole to a newcomer, but he’s a weird one, more goofy labrador retriever than cat. But even with him I couldn’t be sure. Cats can react unpredictably to novel stimuli.

Well, Dewey has always been nice to him and even licks him on occasion, but he wasn’t having any of that “one of us” shit last night.

In other news, Stokie has gained a pound since I porchnapped him, despite crapping in enormous quantities all the time. We are trying a new antibiotic. He is now my $355 free cat.

Heh - check it out, we approached a peaceable kingdom. Dewey and Edison were licking each other and Stokie came up and laid down beside them, and they didn’t chase him off. They completely ignored him and pretended he wasn’t there instead. I had to laugh - it was like in middle school or whatever where all the pretty popular girls would be braiding each other’s hair or whatever and if an unpopular geek like myself sat down near them they’d act like you weren’t even there. It’s hard to get a picture , though - they always look at the camera instead of doing whatever it was that was so cute you had to take a picture in the first place. :slight_smile:

Edison actually did give Stokie a lick or two when Dewey left, but I think he did it because he was confused - he made a face and stopped. :slight_smile:

It certainly looks like they’re settling down :). Probably a good thing little Greystoke is still young - kittens always seem to mesh better, as they’re less threatening. Edison and Dewey may always be best buds ( cats do sometimes develop pretty tight pair bonds ), but if they’re to the point that they’ll tolerate him next to them and even groom him a bit, it’s probably all good.

Just don’t expect this to help with the talking problem ;).