How does a body reject organ transplants? (Maybe TMI)

I know I’m going to regret asking this…

I was listening to NPR today and they had a story about organ transplants and how modern immusuppressants are getting better and so on. Then a doctor was explaining how a badly-matched organ “blows out”, but there were no specifics.

So when a body starts to reject, say, a kidney, and the immune system starts attacking the implanted organ, what happens on a gross level? Is there infection? Internal bleeding? Does the body close off blood vessels and whatnot feeding the organ?

Does the organ really “blow out”, like the TV viewers in the Max Headroom movie? I suspect not.

How long before the situation goes from “have to dig it out now” to “HAVE TO DIG IT OUT RIGHT FREAKING NOW”? Is it on the order of weeks? Or days?

When a transplanted organ fails, who pays for removing it? Is it assumed that if the insurance company paid to put it in, they’ll pay to get it back out?

With out a replacement organ your dead, so the removal would be paid for when the new organ is transplanted. That’s not a likely senerio either. Organs are scarce. The body produces antibodies to the transpanted cells. Once they start the attack, then other processes start adding to the deteriation. It’s time for the doctors to discribe the rest.

I’ve cared for kidney, heart, liver and bone marrow transplants.

There are two types of rejection. The more common type happens relatively slow, over a matter of days, usually, and sometimes can be reversed. I’ll say more about that process in a sec.
The second type is hyper-rejection. It happens when a poorly matched organ is implanted. In kidney transplant hyper-rejection, the organ turns black within a few seconds of the clamps being removed from the blood vessels. It must be removed since it’s just dead tissue, and would cause massive sepsis.
With the more common type, the first thing the nurse would find (yes, it’s the nurse that makes all the early observations.) would be a drop in urine output and an increase in blood pressure.
There is usually microscopic blood in the urine for a day or more after surgery, but, urine becoming visibly bloody is another sign. She would then draw some lab work to confirm rejection. The doctor would then increase the doses of anti-rejection drugs and possibly add others. If the kidney continued to fail, it would have to be removed, even if it had some slight function left, to prevent hypertension. (the kidney produces renin and angiotension that help regulate blood pressure.)

Hyper-rejection can happen with heart and liver transplants too, but less often, due to the fact that a minor mismatch in a kidney may be tolerated, but if it isn’t the bad bean can be removed without the patient dying. Not so with heart or liver, so the crossmatching process is much tighter.

A heart that’s being rejected causes a drop in blood pressure, a slowing of the heart rate, arrhythmias, labs are the best indicator of early rejection, so they’re done frequently.

With the liver too, labs are the earliest indicators. Uncontrollable bleeding is usually the first physical sign.

Bone marrow transplant is very different, in that, unlike the grafted kidney being rejected by the body, the graft rejects the host. (Called Graft vs Host Disease, or GVHD) The three systems affected first, and most dramatically, are skin, GI tract and liver. The skin can slough entirely, leaving the patient with the equivalent of third degree burns over 100% of their body. The GI tract does the same causing the patient to bleed from their bowel, sometimes as much as 12 liters per 8 hours. Liver GVHD causes fulminant liver failure. GVHD can also present in the lungs causing Adult Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) where in the lungs become so stiff, they can no longer exchange.

As far as who pays, the patient’s insurance* pays for everything. (you hope.) Rejection isn’t a medical error, so who else would be expected to pay? In fact, the organ retrieval is partially paid by the recipient’s insurer.

*Some life insurance policies have a catastrophic illness clause, that will help pay for transplantation.

When an organ is rejected, the tissue dies. So you’ll hear the word “necrosis.” picunurse has given a nice description; organ rejection can also happen later on (for example, if the antirejection drugs have been titrated down and the organ recipient has some other illness that kicks his/her immune response up).

picunurseWow - your description of bone marrow rejection was terrifying to me! One of my friends had a bone marrow transplant (for CML) nearly 10 years ago, and as it happened, her brother was a perfect match and she had little to no complications and has been in remission since it was first declared. The RISK, though… I can’t imagine how hard that must have been for her to face, but considering the alternative, the transplant was the way to go, of course.

Wow. I have a lot more respect for her (and she was already pretty much at the top of my list!) I need to call her!

Speaking of bone marrow, There was a news blurb about (IIRC) kidney transplant recipients. Rather than a lifetime of anti-rejection drugs, their immune system is supressed before the transplant. In adition to the kidney, they are given bone marrow from the donor.
It is harder at first, but there is no need for anti-rejection drugs afterwards.

Brian

If you have a cite for that, I’d be interested. I’ve never heard of that. It doesn’t make sense to me, so I’d like to understand it.

mnemosyne, I’m sorry to have frightened you. I gave worst case scenario. GVHD can be fairly mild, too. In fact there’s some research that shows a higher risk of disease relapse in BMT patients who have no signs of mild GVHD during the first 100 days.
Go call your friend, anyway. It’s never a walk in the park.

Another gross distortion brought to you by mass media.

This is still an experitmental procedure that might reduce the odds of rejection or severity of rejection - but it DOES NOT eliminate the need for anti-rejection drugs!!! It may allow for a lower dose but, again it DOES NOT eliminate the need for anti-rejection drugs!!!

And, if it doesn’t work as planned, you wind up with two warring immune systems in the same body. Not pleasent. Notice how when the media reports on warm-and-fuzzy medical news they never tell you the potential downsides?

The ONLY people who escape anti-rejection drugs are identical twins. That’s it.

Whoa - I just understood an implication from this. When implanting an organ, do the surgeons keep the body open a little while longer for observation? If so, is this practice common with all invasive surgeries?

The surgeon takes a few extra seconds to observe for bleeding with any vascular repair. The hyper-rejected kidney turns black immediately upon release of the vascular clamps, so, the time taken to be sure all the vascular connections are secure, is more than enough to observe hyper-rejection.
We’re talk a matter of 30 seconds to a minute, not an extended observation period.

Is this true? I don’t doubt you but I’ve never thought of it like that before. So if my twin needs anything at all, and I happen to have 2 of them, I can give it to him and that’s it? No life long meds no nothing?

Would the same be true of a clone? (Sorry to dive into the area of Sci-Fi but this could change my option on the whole human cloning thing)

Yes, for adentical twins.
Yes, so long as the process didn’t change the clone cells in anyway. Cloning could use cellullar manipulation to hasten the maturation and growth rate geneticaly until the clone is an adult. The process might make the cells incompatable. Who knows, since where not to that point.

Identical twins have identical DNA, since they spring from a single cell. I have no experience with clones.
The first BMTs were done on only identical twins when one had the need. They were done long before the advent of anti-rejection drugs.