How have restaurants changed over the decades?

Variety.

It’s funny that I should stumble across this thread this morning.

Last night I did a comedy gig in downtown Toronto, one of which required me to walk a distance down College Street, west of Bathurst. Along the north side of the road there are stretches where essentially every single place of business is a restaurant. I can’t even begin to guess how many different types of cuisine were offered; one place was a “Korean taco” joint, a combination I’d never heard of before. In a space of 300 metres I could have sampled 40 different kinds of food, at every price point from “takeout” to “I hope you have a lot of room on your Visa.”

Granted, this was downtown in one of the biggest and most diverse cities in North America, so you might think I’m cheating. But right here in my sleepy suburban hometown of Burlington, I can think of five or six pretty damn good sushi places, Thai restaurants, authentic Chinese, haute cuisine, five-star-level restaurants next door to family joints, cheap brewpubs, pricey “gastropubs”, both high and low quality Indian, vegetarian restaurants, high-end Italian places, artisan bakeries, Korean BBQ, and on and on.

When I was a kid, 30 years ago, living in a city of equivalent size, you didn’t have any of that shit. For ethnic cuisine there was American-style Chinese, a cheap “Italian” restaurant, and that was it. It was something of a sensation when we got an Indian restaurant. The best restaurant in town was in a hotel, and the other good restaurants would be considered pretty middle of the road today, and weren’t of the same quality. Pubs did not serve food, or if they did, it sucked. Menus were generally unadventurous, and as has been mentioned, the selection of beer and wine was short.

I think what has happened, and what explains a lot of the changes mentioned in this thread, is simply that** people are much richer than they used to be.** We like to bemoan that wages aren’t going up, and in the last few years that’s true, but as compared to where they were in the 1960s and 1970s they really have, a lot. When I was my daughter’s age, 33 years ago, per capita income in Canada (adjusted for constant dollars) was half of what it is now. Many, many people have far, far more disposable income than they used to, and restaurant dining is the absolute #1 luxury good that increases in usage as a household moves from “Scraping by” to “doing pretty good.” In a day and age when dining out was an unusual treat for most people, you could not have sustained a whole crapload of restaurants in a small city. Kingston, where I grew up, just couldn’t have had three sushi joints in 1978 because people in Kingston didn’t have enough disposable income to entice enough curious customers out to eat that much sushi. Today it can.

I suspect the disposable income effect has a tremendous impact on many of the other changes people have noticed. Department store restaurants are dead because they aren’t as important in a day when you have ten million other choices and the money to try them out; my grandmother used to take me to the restaurant in Zeller’s and we’d love it, but it was bland diner stuff and those went by the wayside because if you can afford better, you buy something better. I’m sure the general loudness of restaurants is partially explainable by virtue of the larger market for dining out, too, although right now I can’t summon the reason why from my tired brain (and the current decor choices have a lot to do with that.)

This might only apply to Tex-Mex restaurants in Texas, but when I was a kid and a teenager Mexican restaurants always brought salsa and a green avocado/sour cream sauce with the free chips. Nowadays, it seems like only salsa is brought out, usually a hotter and a milder version.

I do miss the Tiki themed places.

Ethnic restaurants is what I thought of when reading this thread. When I was a kid growing up in New York City in the 1970’s Mandarin Chinese was as exotic as it got. Today even my dad likes (and can get) Indian and Thai food. Also upscale dining meant French or seafood and that was about it. Today it can mean nearly any type of cuisine.

To be precise, the Netherlands had a chain called Febo. Burgers, sausages, croquettes, and “cheese soufflé” (kind of a hot pocket thing) are in the automat-style section, but fries, fried chicken, and drinks are ordered at a counter.

What happened was that the people revolted. They raised their voices in unison and declared, “We will no longer pay 25 cents extra!”

Actually, I suspect the industry realized that the average schmuck couldn’t really tell the difference between roquefort and the less-costly bleu cheese. Roquefort was still common when I was a kid, and I found I liked it. But I can remember when I started getting asked, “Is bleu cheese okay?” and discovered it tasted almost as good.

Nah, outfits like Farmer Bros. have been supplying restaurants forever. Likewise Boyds. Even Denny’s has its own custom blend. I don’t think any place I’ve worked has served Folger’s or the like, except in emergency situations where the coffee has run out and the truck doesn’t come until tomorrow.
Speaking as a 30-year veteran of the restaurant business, the biggest change I’ve noticed is the fact that, except at the very top and bottom ends of the scale, restaurants these days are run by accountants and marketing departments, instead of actual restaurant people. Even locally-owned, non-chain restaurants are often owned by people with no or little actual hands-on restaurant experience. A lot of restaurant owners now are simply people who were successful in some other field and decided to invest in their own restaurant. The ones who are smart will recognize their own lack of restaurant experience, and will hire and listen to experienced people who know how to operate a restaurant. The ones who aren’t smart are the ones who have gotten all their restaurant information from TV cooking shows and think that all they need to succeed is a fancy menu and decor and a smiling server.

Last night we had a family dinner at Piccolo Pete’s

This place has been there since 1933. I don’t think the menu has changed very much (other than price) since then.

I had Veal Parmesan, and it tasted just like it always has.

re: buffalo wild wings

I’ve seen it both ways. At the same location. I think it depends on the day of the week, but don’t go there often enough to be sure there’s a pattern.

I guess it depends on where you are. There are few diners in California, but in northern New Jersey there are tons, and they always seem to be crowded. And not only with old people.

Had it from Uno’s a week ago to the day.

Larger proliferation of a variety of ethnic restaurants even into smaller tertiary markets.

Tips for good service used to be 15% now 20%

Majority of entrees, even in many better restaurants are flash frozen and pre-packaged

Overall, even given above scenario, I would say that there has been a general increase in the quality of food served in restaurants

With some exceptions (mostly fast food and some chains) sit down restaurants are not quite as family/kid friendly as I recall them being in the 60’s and 70’s at the height of results of the baby boom.

Lots of even mid line restaurants have cracked pepper grinders available to deliver pepper at the table. Don’t remember that in the old days.

Vegetables are not as overdone as they were in years past.

It used to be that the specials were the discounted meals, now they mean the marked-up meals.

Restaurants used to be all about the high-back booths. But now, so many strip mall restaurants without booths <shudder>. Hate being packed in on top of another table so that conversations are easily heard.

The new craze: Personality-driven restaurants. Based on the popularity of Iron Chef winners and food channel hosts, they all have their own specialty restaurant or chain. Because, you know, you can taste the food on the TV, and so, you want to go rushing to their restaurant in person. :rolleyes:

Another change that I’ve noticed in the fast food arena is the hours open. Where I grew up, there wasn’t even a McDonalds until the early seventies. None of the chain fast food joints were open for breakfast there for a few more years. They all closed up around nine.

Now, if I were still working evenings or nights, I would have my choice of fast food at the drive-thru, some delivery until one and some places where the dining area is open very late or all night. Almost everybody (including some of the local BBQ places) serves breakfast. The noodle shops in the town where I work have spurred even the Chinese places to open in the mornings.

On that note Tex-mex restaurants in Texas have definitely changed for the better. When I was a kid you could get either fajitas or something “covered in cheese, onions, and gravy.” Now the average Tex-mex place has great selections from the grill like asada and carnitas, and lots of fish and shrimp, good salads and soups, etc., and they still carry the standard sloppy enchiladas for those who prefer it old school.

Hm, between the ages of 5 and 12 [1966 and 1973] we did Christmas shopping visits to NY [I adored FAO Schwartz!] and I can personally remember Saito East - a tatami mat Japanese place, my first sashimi and run in with red bean paste candy. I can remember Asti, Italian with singing waiters, my first Italian food - which wasn’t all that great, but I loved the singing. Little Greek diner we would do lunch at. I disliked souvlaki at first taste but adored the baklava. Pierres - classic French, had to ask at the beginning of the meal if you wanted a souffle for dessert. Best orange souffle I have ever had.

The Pizza Hut in my home town when I was growing up (mid to late '80s) had a big roaring fire place in the middle of the dining room and candles on the tables. In my conservative Midwestern hometown, it was what passed for fine dining, as it was one of the few nice sit-down restaurants around where you could take the family without busting your wallet.

There are now fewer whole roast fish/chicken disguised as a green salad. Also fewer salads sopping with whatever thick sauce (I never remember their names.)

I haven’t a plate that contains only a steak and baked potato in maybe 30 years.

Hmmm, I think that most of the restaurants that aren’t specialty places (pizza places, sandwich shops, and ethnic places) around here have both chicken fried steak and chicken fried chicken available. The change is that people will order grilled chicken more often. Plus, of course, if you want fried chicken, there are KFCs and Church’s on every corner, and even fast food burger places usually sell some form of fried chicken pieces.

Portion sizes have been supersized, as others have noticed, especially for the relatively cheap starches. And it seems that many, many places don’t bother to cook the food in the restaurant, they just heat and plate and serve.

Some years ago I bought a menu at an antique place from the Los Angeles Biltrmore hotel coffee shop. The Biltmore is still here on Pershing Square, but I doubt the coffee shop still exists. One of the reasons I bought the menu was the fact that it had the date printed on it: October 26, 1942; two weeks before I was born.

On the menu are a number of items that I don’t think are seen any more:

Olympia oyster cocktail (65 cents)
Kadota figs in cream (35 cents)
liver sausage sandwich on rye (20 cents)
Southern ham with country gravy (60 cents)
smoked beef tongue with cole slaw (70 cents)
imported sardines; French or Portuguese (70 cents)
mashed turnips (20 cents)
stuffed tomato with cottage cheese and chives (60 cents)
ox tongue sandwich (35 cents)
fried eggplant (30 cents)
green apple pie (15 cents)
pepperemint ice cream (20 cents)

And on and on. An enormous number of choices, really.

The most expensive item on the menu, which was apparently printed afresh every day, was the “Sizzling T-bone steak, with French fried potatoes and new peas” for $1.35, plus 3 % sales tax.

Cocktails were available as was draft beer (15 cents)

Keep in mind this was during the War Years and prices were regulated by the feds. The prices seem ridiculous, but the Biltmore was then one of the two or three poshest hotels in Los Angeles.

Anyone ever heard of Kadota figs?

Yes, but CFS and CFC are not fried chicken. And fast food restaurants are not what I meant by “sit down” restaurants.