You clearly understand what the issue is here, you just don’t agree with it, and you belittle the position by calling them “hubba hubba” comments and the like.
But since you clearly understand the issue, I guess we can assume that any future “hubba hubba” comments or comments that are “icky” or “gross” are either intentionally violating moderator instructions, violating the rules, being a jerk, or trolling, all of which are bannable offenses.
Are we clear on where you stand at this point, or would you like to make another statement about how you think these “innocent” little comments of bygone generations should be allowed?
I would like to know if this applies to TV and movie threads. Hopefully not, as I was not the only one participating in such recently in the “Orville” thread.
I’m going to try to make it easy for you to understand. Nobody who isn’t your lover cares about your penisfeelings, or about your penis. Just as you are expected to keep your penis to yourself in anything other than a directly sexual situation with a fully consenting partner, you are also expected to keep your feelings regarding your penis, how it feels, what it wants, what or who makes it wibble around and everything else about its operation that is not directly medically relevant (such as “Is my penis supposed to turn purple and feel really cold?”) strictly within the confines of your own mind.
We all are painfully aware that you, along with other men in our society, have been allowed to talk about your penisfeelings freely and to speculate on what various other persons bodies are like and how you’d like to do things to them based on your penisfeelings, but you and other men are now being just as constrained as the rest of us have always been to keep that shit to yourself.
It is not, has never been, and never will be acceptable or fun or an issue of “freedom” for you or any other person to make sexual remarks in public. Full stop. The only thing that’s changing is that you are now getting consequences that you’re unfamiliar with when you do. These consequences are never going to stop, you are never going to be allowed to air your gross comments without pushback and you will get social sanctions if you simply refuse to evolve and learn.
Do make a note of it so we can all stop having to deal with your tedious and excessively juvenile pissing and moaning over it. Grow up and deal.
I was pleasantly surprised. I posted in that thread and wondered what I’d missed. It turns out, nothing. Even you were able to post like a normal human in it. There were passing mentions of how attractive two of the women are, which isn’t objectification. That is as far as it should go. If someone had posted how hawt they got when looking at the women, and how they were wank material, that I would’ve reported.
So there’s the line for you. Now you know! Glad to help.
“Adorable” is very different from “trying to look sexy”. Most significantly, it’s not sexually objectifying in any way. I’m quite certain that “adorable” wouldn’t have been modded.
We had a whole thread about this. You may not comment on a woman’s attractiveness even if she posts a video of herself writhing against a wall and crawling on the floor in a sexual manner. It is insulting and demeaning to call her sexy when she attempted to be sexy.
The mods have made clear that they will not have any meaningfully clear rule about this and that you will be at their subjective mercy. Any threads in ATMB will be closed when they believe that they have dodged you enough.
I’m going to pretend that you’re actually being sincere and direct you to ecg’s Post #61. It seems clear to me. Your complete mischaracterization of the video in the first paragraph is disgusting. There are plenty of places on the internet to be gross. You don’t have to be so here.
False. See SmartAleq’s post, as well as mine, just a few above yours. No matter how many times you protest otherwise, it’s not about any of this other crap in your post.
This is an important point. Bad intentions are not necessary for being a jerk–it can be the result of (willful) cluelessness.
The OP’s comment was buying into the framework (attempted by the person who originally tweeted this video) of pigeon-holing the woman into the whole saint/whore dichotomy. (I.e.:“She’s not acting like a saint, so the only other option is to look at her purely sexually–not serious enough to be in Congress.”) You might think you’re being complimentary when you do this, but there’s a larger context and history to this, which has always been dehumanizing, because real people are something in between. The saint/whore dichotomy has long been a tool for keeping woman out of power.
If that’s what you came away with from all the discussion, then you haven’t understood anything about the issue. But that’s already been abundantly clear.
Me, I’d close them sooner, rather let them run for five pages of wilful disingenuousness: “Oh, so we’re not allowed to use the word ‘hot’ now? How are we expected to talk about the weather? I need to know exactly where the line is!” Never mind dodging, you and your ilk shouldn’t be given this forum as a stalking horse for your disdain for women; if there’s one thing I’d like to see in the moderation of this board in the New Year, it’s vexatious mendacity like this thread being stamped on a lot harder.
Even without disputing anything in your post, perhaps we should aspire to making this a better community by developing more inclusive social skills even to the extent that this goes beyond adherence to whatever strict and explicit rules a mod might articulate about behaviors that cross the “warning” line?
SmartAleq’s timely account just before your post at #66 is a good place to start.
This is so incredibly inaccurate, on so many different levels, that it’s probably best and safest for you if you just refrain from commenting on anyone’s appearance on this board ever. Just a recommendation from another poster – you’re either incapable or unwilling to understand the great range of nuance that exists here.
I don’t know what Fenris’s Law is, but it looks like I will need to steer clear of non-Pit threads from here out. Pity. I guess I will take my son’s advice and go to Reddit, where positive “Hubba Hubba” comments are not yet verboten, plus of course Twitter and Facebook.