Strategies?? Dude, you’re not at war with anyone.
I don’t know if that purse holster had any sort of retention device besides the zipper. Maybe a thumb break might have baffled a 2 year old. I think a finger break definitely would have.
Here’s another thing that bothers me, though. Why would any parent choose to go grocery shopping with 4 children? Leave them home with the husband, dammit! Or I’ve seen mom and dad with 3 kids going grocery shopping. Why do you need the whole crew?
She wasn’t grocery shopping; she was at Walmart. The kids got gift cards for Christmas and they went to Walmart to spend them.
Many Walmarts are also grocery stores.
And did this story of a baby and a gun make anyone else think of Maggie Simpson?
Except, he’s not committing a crime. It may look a wee excessive, but he’s not doing anything wrong. There’s no law against open carry, so why are you calling 911? They have more important shit to deal with.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone open-carry around here, so it probably would make me :dubious:, but I wouldn’t report it.
How do I know he has a permit? How do I know he is not a felon? See something, say something.
They are usually pretty well stocked on gauze and bandaids.
Here in Ohio, you do not need a permit or license to open carry. (Unless you’re in a vehicle.)
But even if a permit were required, so what? When I see someone driving down the road (and doing so peacefully), should I call the police? Because after all, they might not have a driver license. :eek:
If you know open carry is perfectly legal, and if witness an open carrier being peaceful and law-abiding, then it makes absolutely no sense to call the police. It’s completely unreasonable.
Then you have nothing to worry about. The risk is all mine.
Crafter Man, do you have a type of career that requires you to carry? That I don’t object to. It’s the “it’s my right to carry so I carry” crowd that I’m afraid of.
Why does any mother headed to Walmart with four kids need a gun? So if there’s a problem she can “sort it out” by popping a cap in someone’s ass? It makes no sense, it’s taking the law in your own hands, it’s deciding YOU’RE the decider. I don’t trust her to be the decider.
My Idaho experience was far enough back that I would be surprised if things hadn’t changed. Back then it was almost a required card for even residents to buy or sell anything firearms related. If I remember right it even covered some muzzleloader stuff. Not as strict as New Jersey’s - but pretty tight. I believe it was called a “collectors license” as opposed to a “dealers”. I do recall the differentiation between things made inside the state borders though.
Federally, long guns and handguns can be passed down “father to son” without transfer but selling handguns outside the direct family line should require at least basic paperwork/instant background check. Unless that has changed too.
The response you will often get is, “Who are you to decide what I need*???***” Because, you know, Freedom.
Then, there is this:
[quote=“[The Well Armed Woman – About Concealed Carry Purses]
(http://thewellarmedwoman.com/index.php?_route_=the-concealed-carry-purse)”]… My opinion is just that, my opinion and really only matters to me in making the decision for myself. What do I know? I know that awareness and practice are key. Do I carry in a concealed carry purse? Yes, sometimes I do. Why? Because there are times that if I didn’t, I wouldn’t have my gun with me, and that is not an option for me. (As long as it is legal)
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Some people feel wrong leaving the house without make-up on, or clean underwear, or their smart-phone. For some people, they feel that way about their gun. Seems a bit irrational, but if it keeps them from cowering in terror of what might happen, either they need therapy or they need to have their gun.
I’ve been on both sides of the street. When my job required it, it did. When my job forbade it, I didn’t. When I lived rural, I did. The cops were over 30 minutes away at best and I’m not going to leave it in my car out of my control - it stayed on me even when I went shopping. Here in the city, not so much - although there are times. I am perfectly happy in England or Germany where basically no one has a firearm and I’ve enjoyed my life in a few places where someone without a gun was so exceptional as to be a topic of regular conversation. I’m generally pretty neutral in most of these debates.
But I have to ask - the reason I should allow you to be the decider for her is? What? If she felt there was a need; just who are you to say different? You say you don’t trust her but you seem short of reasons for me to trust you. If you got them, I’m open to listening.
Yes; some people are willing to take the law (in terms of their personal defense) into their own hands. But its mostly because a pretty fair sized segment is already committed to taking the law into their own hands - in other words your basic criminal. Since the job of the police is to protect the society and not the individual, are we really all that surprised that some people (even mothers with children) feel the need to protect themselves?
Give me the right to hold the police responsible if I’m robbed or injured by a bad guy and maybe I’ll join you on your side of the fence. Give me the right to sue the Chief and Mayor if I get stabbed on the South Side and I’ll happily give up my right to carry or even own. But as things stand in the world right now here in the good old USA? I’ll stick around the middle and keep my permits in line for when I want them.
I think of it as evolution in action, but little late since she already had 4 kids, but if she was so stupid she had a gun loaded in her purse without even the safety on she had it coming. Different guns have different pulls, I had a hair trigger once that I had to get adjusted because I was afraid that it would get bumped and go off.
I won’t copy and paste but you do note “freedom” is not a term I used at all? I don’t know that I ever have. More often I’ll talk about “responsibility”. But that could just be me.
One kid. The other three were not hers.
I was not referencing anything you said.
A lot of handguns don’t have a traditional safety. Practically no revolver does, many semi-autos have trigger or internal safeties that prevent the gun from going off if dropped or the trigger is snagged.
It shouldn’t be up to him to prove he’s not a felon. It should be up to you to prove he is. Of course, in most states, I believe most felons aren’t supposed to own guns, so I doubt they’d be stupid enough to do so openly. :dubious:
I confess, I’d be a wee freaked out if I saw it around here, but that’s only because it’s really not all that common around here. However, my first thought wouldn’t be that, “OH MY GOD, CALL THE POLICE CRIMINAL CRIMINAL CRIMINAL CRIMINAL!!!” I’ve been around gun owners all my life. And most of them are normal, sane individuals. Yeah, there are a lot of idiots with guns out there. THOSE are the people who scare me the most.
The kid might not remember her, but I’m sure he’ll learn what he did - unless his family decides to keep it from him (which might not be a bad idea). But yes, the father is probably not feeling too great either.