I always thought this would be the case. Then again, I always thought the first black president would be Republican, too, (a la Colin Powell) so I’m 0 for 1 so far.
Harris and Duckworth are good candidates but probably in 2024.
That said, in 2020, I guess Duckworth and Harris will be approximately as experienced as Barack Obama was when he was elected.
Christine Todd Whitman was not terrible, but not beloved in her home state by any means. The breathing issue will be a tough one to try and campaign with though.
She really is a moderate Republican, they’re pretty rare these days. I’m not sure she would do well the national party that leans a lot further to the right than she does.
You might want to concentrate first on electing anyone who is competent and credible in the office. Unless you enjoy the entire world laughing and mocking the USAs political system.
Well maybe we do enjoy that. Did you ever think about that? The entire US is trolling the world. We have by far the largest military and freakish reality TV star man-child as President. We saw **Idiocracy **and said “Shit yeah, thats a damn good idea.”
Well I hope you enjoyed the joke, soon he’ll resign saying we don’t deserve the likes of him and we’ll put someone semi-competant back in charge.
Hillary Clinton won. Trump was not who the majority of the US elected, not even close.
I understand that works as a comfort blanket but she isn’t the one standing in the Vatican tonight posing for photos like a tourist who got picked out of the crowd.
What’s he even doing there.
I saw her say on TV that she is not going to run in 2020 , she want to put her family first. Maybe she will change her mind , I hope.
No, just no. Come on can we please get some fresh candidates not from prior families. What makes Michelle a vaguely good candidate?
The current occupant of the White House from January 20, 2017 has been someone other than her.
A 2% margin in the popular vote is “close” by every reasonable electoral definition.
That’s a good sign. (And it will be an even better sign if the writers don’t kill her off in some humiliating way, as is often the case with ‘elected without having first been a man’s assistant’ female Presidents in fiction).
That’s fair. Hillary plainly did have a solid chance–and I’d change my wording if I could go back in time, to something along the lines of ‘will be given a chance by a major party.’ I think Hillary’s not winning the electoral college (despite winning the popular vote) will be used to exclude American women from consideration for years to come.
That’s fair, too: Veep is a farce and doesn’t really fit in with the other examples which are straight dramas or adventure-genre stories, in which “sympathetic characters” matter.
^ This is it. Many, many Americans are going along with thinking along the lines of ‘well, women had their chance, now we don’t have to think about that for a few decades’ —even what they’re doing is ruling out half the population.
That’s whack.
What he’s doing there is he won the election. Lots of us don’t like him but unlike some places and times, here, when someone wins an election, we don’t call out the military to depose them or just shoot them.
And as for “comfort blanket” I think it’s kind of remarkable that Hillary could be fairly unpopular with a lot of people and still get as many votes as she got. Let me tell you, the first election I voted in was in 1968 and if you had suggested that in 2016 a woman would be on the ballot for president and get over half the popular vote I would have thought you were drunk. I never thought it was going to happen in my lifetime but it did. So it’s more than a “comfort blanket” for many of us; it’s a sign of progress.
This has me wondering, if, some day, the Republican presidential nominee is a woman, and could potentially be the 1st female president, that the Democratic vote - especially Democratic women’s vote - might be all the more galvanized against her - “We can’t let *her *be the first!”
Well, ideally whoever-whenever should neither be voted for nor against just to make a point about The First Woman President. But the evidence is strong for this being far short of an ideal world…
Fwiw, I didn’t think I’d see a non-white US President.
I am glad you see progress, even if it is painfully so. You will probably know the first female Muslim Prime Minister was in 1988.
You know, a lot of this speculating seems to involve one party nominating a woman; but, if they both do it in the same year…
You can take comfort in Clinton being the first woman to win a plurality in the popular vote. She didn’t win a majority though. She got 48.2%.
He was, but he never quite figured out how to be successful with real opposition in Congress and was a pretty extraordinary candidate with a great campaign team. Harris is unlikely to have those advantages.
Actually both have substantially more experience. Harris has been state AG, a statewide job, whereas Obama didn’t win his first statewide office until 2004. Duckworth worked in the VA for Obama(not exactly a selling point, but she did the right thing while she was there, ask the President(in vain) to pay more attention to what was going on in the VA.