I’m pretty sure a head cannot be decapitated, for much the same reason your intestines can’t be disemboweled, or a snake’s pointy teeth defanged…
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Aren’t the parts of the nervous system that produce true blushing below the neck?
Well, if you cut off my head, and then tried to get a reaction by slapping me or calling my name, I’d ignore you out of pure spite. The nerve of some people!
I think it is quite likely you could see for a few seconds, –
—would make you a little queasy I guess with your head flopping downwards and aroundwards----if you had a stomach to be queasy with, which you don’t anymore.
And hear for a few seconds.
Also quite likely you would feel pain for a few seconds. Like a very bad sore throat I guess.
Probably why even the French don’t do it anymore.
If the head is elevated and you open up the jugular vein, it dumps massive amounts of blood in just a couple of seconds (seen it firsthand). I imagine this is more than enough to drop the intracranial blood pressure to a level that couldn’t support consciousness. Survive and spasm, perhaps, but consciousness… I’d bet against it.
A couple seconds can be a very long time.
In fact, a quick look at the dictionary shows that it is in fact two seconds.
(cue spooky music)
One thousand one.
One thousand two.
Can be an awful long time.
But not long enough for all of the anecdotal stories to happen.
As other have pointed out, one issue is a lack of blood pressure. The brain has some fancy mechanisms in play to keep blood pressure at acceptable levels, and any fluctuation will produce unconsciousness. Now the pressure receptors themselves are mostly located in the neck, so it might be possible in theory to severe the head without initiating a fainting response, but not using something as crude as a guillotine or a car crash. Those methods simply apply way too much pressure to the neck for them to allow someone to remain conscious.
The next issue is simply one of breaking the spinal cord. There’s a lot of nerves in their, and when the spinal cord is broken they all fire. The resulting overload almost inevitably causes blackout. It used to be thought up to 20 or so years ago that breaking the spinal cord always caused instant loss of consciousness, but apparently there is some evidence that some breaks in the lower spine may be possible without causing unconsciousness. I’ve tried looking for the evidence for this but while it is regularly cited I can’t find the actual original. But the point is that breaking the spinal cord is terribly traumatic for the brain. Once again I’m willing to concede that someone’s neck could just possibly be neatly severed and allow consciousness to be retained, but not using a guillotine or a car crash.
We obviously can’t know for certain that any method of death is ever instantaneous. But WRT decapitation as it ‘normally’ occurs it’s about as certain as we can be. It would require some really contrived circumstances for someone to suffer that sort of trauma to the neck and remain conscious. Maybe the brain itself remains alive for 30 seconds but I can’t see any way of regaining consciousness within that time. The difference between instantaneous unconsciousness and instantaneous death in this case is practically non-existent.
I think that was up to 20 seconds of consciousness—I imagine you might technically be “alive” (albeit clinically dead) for a few minutes more. (Not that it’d do you any good, unless you were cleanly guillotined next to an operating table with a surgical team standing by to attach your head to a new blood supply.)
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If you want, I could find a link or two about Dr. Robert White’s head-transplant experiments to go with it. (The good doctor claims that it could be performed on a human. The transplanted head would still be paralyzed, but hey, fresh new body! You could become an 8-foot tall Samoan woman, from the neck down!)
Bodies are decapitated; heads are disembodied.
In order for a “decapitated head” to be possible, one’s head would have to have its own head, which would then be cut off.
And even my head’s head is bigger than yours.
Yep, there was a thriller novel some years back where the villian would decapitate people and show them their headless bodies. The heads were then found with horrified looks on their faces.
I work with research animals. A common way to euthanize rats is to use a miniture guillotine. I have seen heads twitch for a few seconds, but I think that is part of the involuntary movements the whole body does after death. Never seen anything that would make me think that the rat heads were aware, but then I don’t look very closely.
Aren’t they in a pointed pastry-bag-type thing too? So they can’t breathe either which you’d think would settle them down too.
Ah, the Decapicones - the brand name of the “pastry-bag-type thing.” Honestly, its been a long while since I last worked with rats, but I think there is a hole at the end of the plastic cone. I wouldn’t want a rat to suffocate before the shuffling off the mortal coil. Anyway, once the head is separated from the body, breathing is the least of the subject’s worries.
Something to think about.
Not to mean to sidetrack this thread. But-------
It seems to me that most all forms of execution leave open the possibility of a very short moment in time when the executed might have some consciousness.
(with the exception of course of lethal injection—at least I think so in that case)
Hanging, even with a perfect job done and the neck broken, still leaves the brain alive and possibly conscious for maybe a few seconds.
Firing squad-------heart is toast, but brain alive for a while.
Not sure about the electic chair------but it seems like a slightly fried brain might have some consciousness in the first few seconds after the switch was pulled.