How many Americans actually want a wall?

Funny how democrats, who’ve never found a public works project they didn’t like, can’t imagine any benefits to building the wall.

I think voters expect him to try tobuild a wall and have Mexico pay for it.

I can’t wait to see how they build that wall in the middle of the Rio Grande river.

Obviously, the notion of a “wall” is stupid, given the existence of tunnels, drones, small aircraft and helicopters, and people just coming in and not leaving.

Did he not say that because he doesn’t have the vocabulary, or was he pandering to fears and racism?

Heh.
I used to hang out with Seabees, and I’m related to some various engineering sorts - So I picked up on a lot of basic trivia in relations to large projects. One of the items that featured large in conversations was mantenance after completion. It’s costly - and full of problems. For instance - The Wall, if it were ever built, would need to be set back well onto US soil, to allow for maintence of the far side - Mexico is unlikely to allow us to use their soil to maintain something they loathe so much. Also, the wall would need many penetrations for getting maintenance equipment to the far side of the wall - Which are weak points. The wall would need protection from sabotage AND Mother Nature - Getting a reponse team to the far side to react to an undermining attempt would be awkward. And if anyone, say, a cartel, were to decide to take a maintenance or repair crew under fire, well, getting them back on the ‘right’ side of the wall is going to be pretty dicey.

Unless you build the wall such that it’s easily traversed. Which makes it easier for border-crossers to traverse, too. :stuck_out_tongue:

So, when Trump started yammering on about “The Wall,” I was less than impressed. Static barriers are pointless unless you’re willing to defend them - The thing here is, if you have a Border Patrol force large enough to defend The Wall, you don’t actually NEED a wall - The manpower alone would be sufficent, given decent support and equipment.

Never wanted it, don’t believe in it; I think it’s a stupid idea intended to appeal to people who know little and to people whom don’t want to think outside their comfortable little box.

But you see, that’s metaphoric precast concrete he’s talking about, and metaphoric steel.

Trump voters maybe be stupid, but not so stupid they can’t understand that their man actually promised to build an *actual wall *(and have Mexico pay for it). It was one of his few specific campaign promises. I get the whole “take him seriously but not literally” b.s., but when his says he literally wants a wall, can’t we take him literally?

Unbeknownst even to many professional metallurgists, the metaphorite phase in steel is a narrow wedge in the iron/carbon alloy phase diagram between solid austenite and ferrite regions forming a pearlite-like region with rare interstitial carbides that are the result of deep quenching in complex organic egesta, most commonly ordurious emissions from the embouchement of particularly meretricious candidates for public office. The resulting hypereutectoid steel alloy is particularly light and incredibly strong, but unfortunately subject to rapid corrosion even in the absence of any oxidation reactions, and will quickly break down into heated vapor and dissipate into the atmosphere, leaving only hollow structures and broken promises. It is therefore not recommended for structural, electrical, casing, or cosmetic purposes.

Trump was, of course, speaking literally about building a wall but forgetting his basic training in metallury and materials science, which is understandible because although he is one of the finest technical minds in the nation, nay, the world, it has been many moons since he recieved his joint PhD from MIT, Columbia, Princeton, Harvard, and Caltech in “Science, Just Science”.

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So - his wall is auto-corrosive and outgasses violently?
That seems about right.

It was a really great degree. The best. You’d love it.

Like the man himself. “Trump, the Man, the Legend, the Gaseous Conflagration”.

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A majority voted for him and support police state.

Why:eek::eek::eek:

Well a majority voted for ultra conservative where none of the NATO countries would even allow such conservative on talk radio that alone show up for his rally than even vote for him.

Much of what he said would be banned on radio or TV.

US is not far from Germany and USSR where you needed papers to go any where and police check points everywhere.

We seen what happen when China built the great China wall!! China lost history and stagnated in much of all areas like art, math, engineering, science, and technology so on.

Not really. A strategic minority voted for him. Otherwise, carry on.

He’s the greatest Gaseous Conflagration. The best. Really great - you’re going to love the way he outgasses, I guarnatee it.

Someone else suggested that he will make the Mexicans pay for his metaphorical wall metaphorically.

That’s actually not true; Democrats see how this could lead to higher employment in the construction industry.

Of course, the same would be true for a construction project digging holes and filling them in again. It would benefit those who are hired to do the work…it just wouldn’t benefit the overall economy, nor would it be a sane investment.

Well that’s hard to say. Probably because there is 700 miles of new wall that can be added on to in order to further limit illegal border crossings. Just a guess.

Do you think voters are going to object to increased border security if every linear inch of wall isn’t connected?

Even just digging holes and filling them in again, or, yes, The Wall, would have some stimulative effect on the economy. Except, of course, that that stimulative effect depends on the workers actually being paid, which (based on Trump’s track record) probably won’t happen with The Wall.

But we can do much better. When your public works project is, say, building a road, or a dam, then you still get the stimulative effects of the spending… and then, when you’re done, you also have a new road or dam. When The Wall is done, what will we have? If it does what it’s supposed to, then we’ll have a big increase in the price of fresh produce and a shortage of gardeners and day laborers. Why do we want that?

So which is it? A metaphorical wall or a physical wall?

In places that benefit from additional wall construction it’s a physical wall. More desolate places would be whatever technology best suits the area and that would be a metaphorical wall. Both serve the same purpose. To decrease illegal border crossings.

Hey, why not dig holes randomly around the border area, put sharpened sticks in them, cover them with camouflage, then every month or so, fill in the holes and re-dig them somewhere else, so those devious intruders (or fugitives trying to escape) will never be able to keep a whole hole map. That would keep people employed longer than putting up a wall.

You’re assuming some sort of “plan” or “thought” behind this Build a Wall initiative. I think it’s supposed to be more of a simple slogan without meaning, like “repeal Obamacare” or “Make America Great Again,”

You don’t seem to understand that we’ve been building a wall for the last 8 years. Or that Americans were very unhappy with Obamacare.

How do you think American voters feel about the 40% reduction in illegal crossings since Trump took office?