How many syllables is too many for a first name?

Inspired by the Names into Nicknames thread.

I think an awful lot of nicknames result from people simply being unwilling to repeatedly use (or remember) too many syllables when addressing or referring to someone.

So, how many is too many? One is clearly safe (no one shortens John and Ann out of laziness), and I think two is fine (David and Mary are good) but three is starting to get iffy (Jonathan and Bethany are probably more often shortened than not.)

Four is a real barrier. Alexanders must accept Al or Alex or Xander unless willing to be thought pretentious. Amelias are bound to answer to Amy.

But five? Are there commonly used five syllable names?

(I vaguely remember an SF novel where the aliens all had six syllable names. I genuinely had a hard time keeping the characters straight. Didn’t matter if they started with different letters, or even has NO letters in common. Its like my database for names only allows for a certain size of entry, and anything past that is simply discarded. I quit that book about a third of the way in, and the name irritation was a big factor.)

Added: obviously I am looking at names I come across in my daily life. For all I know, Malaysian first names may be routinely sixteen syllables long and they have no trouble using the full things all the time.

My name is my name. I learn yours and you learn mine. I don’t answer to nicknames. They aren’t my name.

I don’t think that’s what it is - because while no one shortens one syllable names like John or Ann, they do get lengthened into Johnny and Annie and there are two syllable nicknames for two syllable names like Bobby (Robert) and Richie ( Richard) and even single syllable nicknames like Rob and Rich . I think at three syllables the nicknames are always shorter than the name- but I could be wrong about that. Most nicknames are meant to convey informality/familiarity - I wouldn’t call someone “Mike” if I was introduced to them as “Michael” , at least not until I was told to.

We’re going to call you “Snickety”.

I kid, I kid…

How many syllables is too many? If you have to pause to take a breath in the middle, the name is too long.

That’s usually how I parse them, but sometimes they can be clipped versions of lengthy names for convenience’s sake, or rough approximations of a non-English name that can be difficult for an English speaker. If a non-English speaker offers the nickname as a substitute, that’s fine, but I wouldn’t assume. I personally respond to any and all forms of my name, first or last, as I don’t care. To me, it’s just a word. But I wouldn’t assume others share my nonchalance about it.

Anastasia (depending on how you pronounce the last three letters)

My great grandmother’s name was Apolonia. There was an Apollonia co-starring in Prince’s Purple Rain. Other than that, though, I don’t run into those names.

Evangelina is one, though, that I do.

Maximilian if you don’t elide those last two vowel sounds.

The Lil’wrekker went to school with a girl named Alexandriana. Of course she was called ‘Lexi’.

I found a few candidates for five-syllable names. In a lot of cases, the number of syllables depends on whether adjacent vowels are pronounced separately or as diphthongs. None of the names below are very common in the US.

Bartholomeo
Bartholomeus
Bartolomeo
Massimiliano
Maximilian
Maximilien
Sebastiano

Alexandrina
Annamaria
Eleanora
Elisabetta
Evangelina
Theodosia

Three is too many. Stop being pretentious, get yourself a simpler name. And I get the irony, usernames are not real first names.

Mahershalalhashbaz is a name (six syllables). The actor who was born with that name uses Mahershala professionally.

My daughters have names that are three and two syllables, respectively. We deliberately chose names that lent themselves to nicknames, since my name (Donna) doesn’t and I’d always wished it did. But neither of them has ever used a shorter nickname - at one point in her childhood, my younger one actually tried out a longer version of her name, and no one’s had trouble with the three syllables.

I worked in a school from 2008 to 2022, and one of the things I noticed was that kids, boys especially, are more likely to use their full names than they were in my youth. I saw a lot of Michaels and Davids and Roberts, but no Mikes or Daves or Bobbys.

Unless they, you know, want to use their actual name. Shocking that someone might want to do that

There’s noted footballer Equanimeous St. Brown, of course.

Aside: his bothers are Amon-Ra (which I knew) and Osiris (which I didn’t). His parents’ surname is Brown; all 3 children are St Brown.

Source.

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Off topic, but are you one of my cousins? :slight_smile: You used my name as well as both of my older bothers.

Nope, I have cousins with all those names, but not a set of three brothers with those names, :grinning:

I know a guy whose first name is Poncedeleon.

mmm

A friend just told me her newest granddaughter is named Oceania, which she thinks is stupid. It’s supposed to be pronounced Oh-sea-an-e-uh. Friend is trying to establish her ‘use’ name as Shawna, but DIL objects.

I suggested she call the kid “Ocean-yuh” for a bit :laughing: and maybe they’ll change their minds.

A number of years ago Ocean was a very popular name for girl babies in Quebec. Pronounced O-say-ahn. I think it’s pretty.

I’m with ya. I don’t mind the short form of my name, in part because I’m a III and so when my dad and grandfather were alive, being able to tell us apart quickly was useful (though that got complicated when all three of us were together, as my grandfather would get the full name, which was usually my dad’s; my dad would get the short name, which was usually mine; and I’d become just “P”).

But in school the French teachers invariably wanted to call us by the French versions of our names. I’d just say “That’s not my name” until they gave it up.

All of this might be why I’m pretty persnickety about not getting folks’ names wrong, including pronunciation of foreign names. Some folks just can’t seem to get it, even after years of working with someone!