How many "twin cities" in the US?

I think Miami/Ft Lauderdale are twin cities. You might also include West Palm Beach.

I don’t know. I’ve never been to either one. I watched a documentary on tv about the arch. I thought it was supposed to connect something?
But I have been to Dallas a few times. Enough to know that all the business’ in both cities consider them united. “Best deals in Dallas/Fort Worth” they say.
Whatever happened to pickups and Stetsons, BTW? :wink:

You’re talking the Quad Cities area there.

You left out Bettendorf, IA and Moline, IL.

Ah, you’re talking about divisions drawn by the marketing industry to define television and radio shares, and other comparative marketing data. That’s a kind of fuzzy definition. Some years back, for instance, Baltimore and Washington were combined into a single “metropolitan marketing area” that extends from the SW suburbs of DC to the NE suburbs of Baltimore. I may have the terminology slightly wrong, since I haven’t done any work in radio marketing for about 15 years.

As a definition, that’s at least as murky as some of the others. But I can get murkier still. How about “acknowledged sister cities”. Madison, Wisconsin has sever of them scattered all over the world.

IMO, as a lifelong Detroit resident, we sorta consider Windsor our downtown playground, since Detroit hasn’t really had a vital downtown in decades.
With the drinking age two years lower, it’s standard for most teenagers within a half-hours drive to the bridge to spend a great deal of time in Windsor.
I plan shopping trips to Windsor as commonly as I’d plan a trip to Ann Arbor, and I know plenty of folks that will do lunch or dinner there just to take advantage of the duty-free liquor prices coming back.

All the Windsor folks I’ve met seem to like having Detroit as ‘their’ ghetto, makes the worse they’ve got seem better by comparison. They’ll cross over for the sporting or cultural events, then hurry home to brag about spending time in the big dangerous D.

The largest international fireworks display, held between the two independance days, is The Freedom Festival jointly sponsored by Detroit and Windsor…so yeah, some of us would consider it a twin, or sister at least, relationship.

To me, size is also an issue (I know, I know…isn’t it always?). Part of what makes the Twin Cities truly twins is that they’re roughly the same size. At the other extreme, you have something like St. Louis/E. St. Louis, the latter of which is so subordinate that its founders couldn’t be bothered to think of a separate name. It’s rather like a male angler fish. Or, more truthfully, a suburb that happens to be located on the other side of a state line - something that tends to happen when big cities and state boundaries are both located on rivers.

It’s interesting to look at historic development and see what ends up happening. At one time, I think Fargo and Moorhead may have been closer in size, but now Fargo’s shot ahead. Poor Ft. Worth is in danger of winding up as sort of an appendage to Dallas. New York swallows up everything from Princeton to Hartford. I’d say the same thing is happening to Baltimore, though I know Weirddave strenuously disagrees - people are starting to commute in fair numbers from Baltimore to DC, and not vice versa.

True twins, or multples? The Twin Cities. The Kansas Cities and Texarkana. Tampa-St. Pete. Tri-cities (Washington). Quad Cities. Urbana-Champaign and Bloomington-Normal. Maybe Baltimore-Washington. But not many of these others. Not Detroit-Windsor, not Cincinnati-Covington, not Nogales (despite the similar name), not Laredo-Nuevo Laredo, not Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-Palm-West Palm. Certainly nothing that’s X-and-Directional X. Hell’s bells, there’s a West New York, pop. 45,768 - and it may have a great view of New York, but it’s not our twin.

No, no. No sister cities or marketing areas allowed. Sorry I brought it up :wink:
But the relationship between the two cities does go pretty deep. The freeway(s, I30 and ?) do get pretty busy most of the time. I drove over to the touristy old town in Ft Worth a couple of times and there were lots of people there. There’s really no open space between the two. You can go all the way on surface streets, I think.
I got lost a few times. Ever try to find good BBQ in Texas? Sheesh!

Waterloo/Cedar Falls IA. Waterloo is industrial and Cedar Falls is the home of University of Northern Iowa.

Yaaa, go on, say what you want. You know I won’t punch you in the nose because:

A) I like you too much and
B) Chad’s too cute to cause him distress.

;):p):stuck_out_tongue:

It wasn’t supposed to connect anything (that I’m aware of, at least…). If that was the intention, the logical choice would’ve been to build one foot on the Illinois side of the Mississippi River and one foot on the Missouri side (they’re both in Missouri, for those who aren’t familiar). Unfortunately, the Arch is only 630’ wide (also 630’ tall!..most people think it’s taller than it is wide, or wider than it is tall…but both dimensions are the same), while the Mississippi is over 3,500’ wide at that point.

The Arch was meant to symbolize a “Gateway to the West,” as St. Louis was the starting point of Louis & Clark’s historic journey. Completed in 1965 as part of the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, the Gateway Arch is maintained and operated by the National Park Service, and is the tallest U.S. Monument (at least, that’s what they say…I guess Mount Rushmore doesn’t qualify…or is much smaller than I’ve been led to believe).

I don’t work for the National Park Service, I just like St. Louis, and think the Arch is really, really cool.

Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana fits the definition quite well. They are two, somewhat distinct cities (Bossier City has casinos and Barksdale AFB) that are ajoined but seperated by the Red River.

I’m surprised that no one has yet mentioned the largest international twin city: San Diego and Tijuana. It’s noteworthy because it’s the largest metro area in the world having one part in the First World and one part in the Third World.

The mountain they’re on has a summit of some 5700 feet, but the heads themselves are only about 60 feet high.

Kansas City is two cities? Who knew? I guess I always considered it one city separated by two states. Is it really so separate to be considered two by the people who live there?

Idle minds, and all that.

The only way KCK and KCMO are separated is like that… such as “I70 is slow on the Kansas side at 435 south.”

They are definitely considered the same city, though laws differ depending on which side of the state line you’re on. KCK (city proper) is much much smaller than KCMO, but the suburbs on both sides make it more like LA or St Louis than other cities.

Most of our descriptions are by stereotyped by county these days. Jackson County (MO) has the stadiums, Johnson County (KS) has the rich people, Wyandotte County is poorer… etc.

Don’t know how the people who live there think, but legally, they are two cities. Cities are chartered by the state and each is chartered separately. Each has its own government.

Now it’s not absolutely necessary that it be done this way. AFAIK, there’s one exception in the world to this: Lloydminster Alberta/Saskachewan. This city legally does cross a border. It has a single city government and both provinces consider the entire city to be within their respective borders (a situation known as condominium). This has existed since 1930, when the parliaments of both provinces passed nearly identical laws on the same day establishing it.

As I said in a previous post upthread, there’s a number of places in the US with cities on opposite sides of state borders but the same name. In all cases, the two are separate cities or one is unincorporated. Even quite small places like Texhoma on the TX/OK border have two citiy governments.

Ardmore AL
Ardmore TN

Aha! That makes sense. Thanks.

Just north of Chattanooga, TN is a town named Soddy Daisy, TN. It used to be Soddy, TN and Daisy, TN but they got tired of being two little towns and instead became one little town. :stuck_out_tongue:

As for towns on state lines there is Texarkansas, TX and Texarkansas, AR.

And I’m not sure if this has anything to do with the subject but the Greater Cincinnati Airport is across the river in KY.

Off the top of my head (go ahead and check the maps)

Grand Forks (ND) / East Grand Forks (MN)

Fargo (ND) / Moorehead (MN)

Whapeton (ND) / Breckenridge (MN)

Bismark/Mandan (both ND)

Minneapolis/ St Paul (already covered)

More later if I feel like looking. :wink: