I’ve only really had Hari Krishnas, but that’s because there are a reasonable number locally, and sort of self inflicted because they try to convert you but they also give delicious vegan food, much better that I could make myself, not being vegan. So I am willing to go along with the talk, because at the end there is the reward.
They hold a festival for Rathayatra (the festival of chariots) each year in Philly. There is music, vendors, and as was said free vegan food. My gf and I go every year.
I used to live a block from a ISKCON temple. I’d see them when they held a festival in a nearby park, or occasionally paraded down my street. Never had any negative interactions with them - they were good neighbors.
That was about 20 years ago, but their temple was still there last time I drove past in, probably a month ago. They run a vegan restaurant. I’ve never been, but friends tell me it’s really good, and that they don’t proselytize the customers.
I was poor and hanging out near a university, so any free food was good. The pre-food thing is mostly just chanting and ringing bells and showing they were nice people, which, I think they are.
The restaurants, inevitably named Govinda’s are not a place they preach at, they are a normal food place.
(Aside: I stayed at an ISKON hotel in Mumbai, and needed to use their internet. Being relatively tech savvy and because the transaction I needed to make was financial, I used my iPod - remember them - to use some apps I had made “portable”, ie, run off a USB drive. So it worked but my krishna I never knew iPods could pick up viruses like that, I had at least 5, including one where the entire playlist was moved to a hidden folder. Great food, great accommodation, would go back. Just with an independent source of internet)
As far as I know, yes. She was non-Mormon and a strong personality. He deferred to her a lot, so they mostly did things her way. It worked for them.
Mostly just that event. I think it was the only dry wedding I’d ever been to. Not that any weddings I’d been to ever degenerated into drunken messes – they were just livelier. I think it was because if you got married at the “ward,” everybody was invited. So, it was mostly like a kiddie party where the kids are really downbeat and very restrained. It was a weird atmosphere. The bride knew nearly no one there.
But here is a definition of militant- Politically active organizations whose members are fanatically devoted to the global promotion of their religious beliefs
Yep, but they continue in their rude and insulting ways, thinking they will convert people by being assholes.
See- a perfect example.
Yeah, I see your point, but it has all the duck hallmarks. Its protected under religious freedom. They attempt to convert people. They believe strongly in something that has no proof. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…
Nope. I’m not believing in something that has no proof. Not the same thing.
I’m not interested in trying to convert religious people, though – at least, unless they persistently try to convert me, in which case I’ve occasionally given in to the temptation. I try not to, though; it probably won’t work, and if it does work it probably isn’t kind.
More importantly - did they serve jello at the meal?
( I went to a conference in the Convention Center at SLC. They served jello as dessert after lunch, the only time I’ve ever had that a conference meal - and I’ve been to a lot of conferences.)
Yeah, I’m talking about people who do things like post multiple Facebook memes every day (I unfriended a relative for posting things like “I hope the Rapture happens so all the Christians will be gone” or “If there’s ever a Christian holocaust, sign me up” - and no, he didn’t care that many employers look at social media) and I’ll never forget the guy I knew many years ago who not only tore the “In God We Trust” out of his paper money, he would also grind it off his coins.
This guy, BTW, WAS known to go into churches, etc. and disrupt services! He’d also been banned from every library and bookstore in Des Moines, where we lived at the time, for moving religion books to the fiction section and being a total jerkwad about it.
There’s a big stretch between things like this, and the kind of atheist who is better described as a “none”, as in they do not believe in any specific deity or practice any variation of religion.
There’s a Gurdwara (Sikh temple) down the road from me, and after a shooting at one a few years ago (apparently the shooter thought they were Muslims) they held an open house, even though the building is always open to the public. I just walked in, and was told that I needed to leave my shoes at the door, and that this area was off-limits because my head wasn’t covered, and that area was too because it was men only, and it had the delicious smell of yellow lentil soup, which is often the post- observance meal.
All the atheists I’ve ever interacted with would condemn this kind of behavior. At least he didn’t shoot up birth control clinics or the wrong kind of church. But I don’t consider those kind of people representative of the majority of Christians, even in the Bible Belt. Unfortunately those limiting reproductive freedom or trying to get the Bible taught in public school classrooms are.
In the shul I grew up in heads had to covered also. Do you have a problem with that? Did they have a covering available for you? Not in mine, but in more orthodox ones, men and women are separated also.
Lots of religions oppress women worse than this. Think of the fit the right wing Catholics had about women being invited to the recent meeting at the Vatican.
I did not consider my experience at the Gurdwara to be any more discriminatory than the men’s or women’s restrooms. It’s just that none of this was marked, because 99.9% of the time, the people who went there would know where to go and what to do (or not do).
There’s a temple on the north side of Chicago that hosts (or did pre-pandemic) extremely inexpensive vegan community meals. My relatives went weekly. I went a couple of times; great food.
And this affected you in what way? Why should his currency carry a religious message that isn’t his religion? You’ve made it quite clear that you can’t tolerate being forced to put up with opposing views to your own religion.