Stop selling things to Americans. Really, that’s about it. As a practical matter, they have about 8 times our population, so to “balance” trade the way Trump thinks it should work, every Canadian would need to buy about 8 times as many US products as every American buys Canadian. That’s basically never going to happen, even if we all decide to abandon our “Buy Canadian” movement.
We can’t stop selling to the US because no one else is willing, or able, to buy the majority of products we sell. We sell 3 times more to the US than to anyone else.
The US is also our competitor. They just made a trillion dollar deal while Carney has his thumb up his ass doing nothing. It may well be that he can’t do anything. We don’t have the capability to compete. Where is the LNG port on the east coast? 600B of that deal was on energy.
Didn’t Carney say that all deals with the EU require carbon pricing (or something like that)? Trump must not have been listening, nor the EU for that matter. Isn’t Carney supposed to be some sort of globalist expert? Doesn’t seem so in practice.
Well yes, that was kind of my point. Trump’s obsession with the trade deficit is irrational. There’s no practical way to “fix” it that doesn’t involve serious damage to one, and most likely, both economies. Trump doesn’t understand that, and never will.
Your bestie, JT, already signed the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement back in 2016, which:
Most countries have already ratified it too. What do you want Carney to do? Flame it like Trump does and renegotiate another?
The question and Carney saying that the largest emitters (polluters) must have a carbon tax to trade with the EU, UK, and others. Again, seems Trump didn’t get the memo (along with Pollievre who said this was poppycock when Carney made the claim).
So, we went from deals being made within 30 days after the election, to Aug 1st, to ? Even Mexico managed to get a 90 day extension. I thought this was a key platform? Wasn’t this guy the Trump Whisperer?
I’d suggest that rather than standing in front of the elephant flapping his elbows and poking it with a stick (dribble about recognizing Palestine), that he actually get serious, take a page from other countries making deals, and get to work. … Well, unless not making a deal is the actual goal? Kind of deflects from the other issues allowing the Liberals to blame Trump for non-action/subtraction in those areas. e.g. Housing, major projects, and Canadian competitiveness.
Quite frankly, Canadians don’t want Carney to make a bad deal. No deal is better then signing some bad deal.
And if Canada fails to get a deal, most Canadians will 100% blame Trump, not Carney. Good luck in trying to convince anybody otherwise. That’s just the result of Trump’s insane attacks. There is no Canadian who thinks that Trump isn’t operating on bad faith and malice. He did that to himself.
Everyone else has signed a bad deal then?
Carney said he’d make a deal. We can assume he meant a good deal when he said that. He said that knowing what Trump is. So, no backsies saying that Trump is mean.
What I won’t assume is Carney actually wants a deal.
If you doubt it, then legitimately read ANY news story from ANY source.
So, no backsies saying that Trump is mean.
Well good luck in trying to paint Carney as the source of the failure. You’ll be laughed out of every room. That’s just where Canadians are. Maybe in a year we’ll be in a different place, but here and now. We are full Trump is an insane bad faith worthless lying scumbag.
Trump plays this card often too. Canadians know it. We understand it. This is why Carney won’t be blamed… unless he signs a shitty deal. Canadians would rather no deal.
The failure isn’t the issue. Telling people he was the one to make the deal and then not doing it, or not having the intention of doing it, is the issue. He lied, people believed it. Don’t get mad at me for calling it out.
Elbows up into poverty.
Most Canadian goods are covered under CUSMA anyway. And we would be fools to give up our supply management on dairy. It works well for us so we don’t get bombarded by a glut of American products. If Trump doesn’t like it, too bad. He can carry on taxing the American people through tariffs if he thinks they’ll fall for it—and they usually do.
Canadians elected him to make a good deal, not make a deal at all costs. Why would we sign a deal similar to the UK with a 15% tariff when most goods are at 0% under CUSMA today, a deal that Trump had previously called the best trade deal ever?
Because Trump can use his emergency powers to over-ride CUSMA and he has done so. He is putting 50% tariffs on steel, aluminum, etc., and 15% would be better than 50% at least in my math. Canadian companies have not bothered registering and complying with CUSMA and ~40% of the goods that do qualify are currently registered.
Consequences of 50% tariffs on minerals (some free articles). 23,000 direct jobs, 100,000 related jobs.
Either Trump respects his treaties or he doesn’t (hint, we already know he doesn’t).
You, truly, do not understand where Canadians are at, if you think Trump reneging on CUSMA tomorrow is evidence FOR signing a bullshit deal with Trump today.
At the time, I made the point that the single most important characteristic we needed in the soon-to-be government was flexibility. This was in direct contrast to PP, who kept trying to fight the election we thought we were going to have, for months after it was clear that everything had changed. Trump changes his mind on shit almost daily, and whoever is dealing with him has to be able to keep up with that, in some way. So far, Carney seems to be doing that. He’s not letting himself be stampeded into a “deal” just make himself look good. I’m willing to hold fast while the realities of Trump’s policies work their way through the system, in hopes that we’ll get a better outcome than what is on offer right now.
Grabbing a quick “deal” would be the easiest thing in the world right now, but that’s not leadership. I voted for leadership, so I’m getting what I wanted. It’s only been a few months, and I’m not willing to jog Carney’s elbow just yet.
I certainly 100% blame Trump.
Trump has been acting in bad faith ever since he got the “51st state” bee in his bonnet.
Your hatred for Carney is duly noted, and unsurprising. Your real problem with Carney is that he leads the Liberal party. You’d be spouting the same venom no matter who it was.
A 50% steel tariff could easily make cars produced in the US more expensive than European imports even with a 15% tariff. To say nothing of China.
The courts have not so far been sympathetic to Trump’s emergency, but perhaps only the Supreme opinion counts.
Quite frankly the only way to end the madness would be for the American public to put a leash on their mad dog. How this happens depends…
It might be low public approval ratings that causes their Congress to grow a spine (I laugh), it might be loses in the midterm elections which causes the Fascist party loses their grasp in the House (flip a Yankee quarter on that bet), it might be that we need to wait out the whole 4 years with this manic baby calling all the shots on our southern borders (likely).
There is no assurances that the Americans will ever regain their sanity after Trump. We must endure regardless how crazy they are (and might sink).
Nice. You claim I hate him to shutdown my argument. Should I do the same for any argument you have against the conservatives?
What venom? He said he’d make deals in set time frames. He hasn’t. He said he’d do this knowing full well who Trump is. He scared the public to vote for him saying he was the only one who could deal with trump. So the reality is he either lied, he has no idea what he is doing, or he doesn’t want a deal. That he declares support for Palestine the day before his deadline, in the midst of making the supposed deal, tells me that the latter is most likely. It’s like what he did with the digital services tax. Pokes the elephant in the eye. That he canceled that almost immediately doesn’t negate the poking.
Option 4: the circumstances are not ideal for a good deal for Canadians, so he uses judgement to not hold to an arbitrary date for a suboptimal deal.