How should these two scenarios be compared? (hetero v. homo)

As a trans woman, I’ve refrained from commenting because I wanted to see how this thread would progress. I also suspect that this thread is really about people like me. There’s an extremely pathologizing and invalidating “model” of trans womanhood, often weaponized against us, that claims that we are men and that we cleanly fit into one of two categories:

  1. hyperfeminine gay men who want to ensnare straight men
  2. crossdressing fetishists who want to ensnare lesbians

Even the word “deceiver” brings to mind an article in Hypatia about transphobic violence entitled “Evil Deceivers and Make-Believers”. I notice that Lumpy hasn’t returned to clarify, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Regardless, reading the OP was like a punch to the gut.

As an aside, every trans person I know who is actively dating opens up the conversation with “I’m trans. Is that OK with you?”

But to answer the OP: I’m regularly in situations where my trans-ness becomes apparent, but not immediately. Some of these situations have turned violent. I always have to be aware that my very existence can be misconstrued as purposeful deception. The person at criminally at fault is the one wielding the baseball bat.

Maybe technically true, but the “trans panic” defense has been remarkably successful in court.

For those that are unaware in cases of assault and murder of trans people (in both romantic contexts, including simple flirting, and others, such as coming out to parents or friends), there is a common defense used known as “trans panic” which states that the person was SO overcome with emotion that they could not control themselves and killed the trans person. This defense works far more often than it should (which is never).

It’s an evolution of the “gay panic” defense which was the same idea, and used in similar contexts, but about homosexual people.