Hmm. It’s not unreasonable for the bat-swinger to interpret the deception as a rape attempt. So maybe self-defense? Especially if this state has a castle doctrine or no duty to retreat.
Did you get the “not” part in there by mistake?
I place blame on both the straight man and the lesbian for playing around with the Funk Cold Medina. And also for viciously beating the shit out of somebody with a baseball bat.
Oh, I know this 90s rap song…the next line is something about how being intolerant of gays shows that the rapper is a real man, right?
Seriously though, outside of niche porn, it’s just not a thing that happens. Pretty weak attempt to find a gender double standard.
So, you consider a penis a deadly weapon?
By your criteria, if a woman invites a man to her place, and he starts to put the moves on her, she has the right to beat his brains out with a baseball bat.
Might work at that.
Good one, but you overplayed the joke with the “castle doctrine” bit.
That would make a great blues song
My home is my castle
But someone’s splashing in my moat
The penis mightier than the sword.
Wrong. The deceiver bears responsibility only for the deception, and deserves to be asked to leave. The deceiver does not deserve to be brutally beaten.
“It’s just a pity that no one told Begbie”
Even Begbie, the most violent Scotsman alive, didn’t smash the trannie. And it’s not like he had a sense of humor about it, either.
A reasonable person can certainly take it for granted that the vast majority of female-presenting persons will not have a penis. It is not reasonable to take it for granted that no female-presenting person will have a penis.
With the caveat that if the “deceiver” is actually a transgender woman with a penis, then there isn’t even any deception for her to bear responsibility for. Of course it’s still perfectly appropriate to ask her to leave if you decide that her having a penis makes her sexually unappealing to you.
Of course not. But when you know you deviate from the vast majority of people in a significant (and soon to be highly relevant) way, isn’t it deceptive to conceal that issue when you know you haven’t got what the other person is looking for? If I know you’re shopping for a winter parka for your upcoming Antarctic expedition, and I sell you a nylon shell stuffed with Spanish moss–looks like what you want, but will be pretty much the opposite of what you want, and I know that–would you call that deceptive?
Naturally, you still don’t get to smack me around with a baseball bat.
There are lots of reasons a man might ask a female presenting person without a penis to leave. She’s not interested in sex now. She wears Barbie underwear. She thinks it is good that Han shot first.
I wonder if the hypothetical man overreacting in the OP’s scenario is scared that the situation is appealing to him. Kind of like all those closeted Republicans ranting about the evil of gay people.
What’s this “know”? Sure, if you are a trans woman with a penis and your potential sex partner tells you that they don’t find penises attractive and don’t want to sleep with a person with a penis, then it would be deceptive of you to let the courtship continue without revealing your genital status.
But if you don’t know your potential partner’s preferences in that regard, it’s not your responsibility to announce your genital status pre-emptively. After all, there are plenty of bisexual people, both men and women, who don’t object to either women or penises in a sexual context. And there are also quite a few lesbians and straight men who don’t find a woman’s possession of a penis a total dealbreaker when it comes to sex. So a trans woman really can’t “know” whether or not her potential partner would consider her penis a disqualifying characteristic unless they tell her so.
Yes, but only because in that scenario it’s specified that you do know exactly what I do or don’t want in the parka department. If you know definitely that I want an Antarctic-grade parka and not the Spanish-moss kind, then you should not sell me a Spanish-moss one.
But if all you know is that I’ve leaned across a bar table to you and breathed into your ear “God that parka is so beautiful, I’d sure like to buy it”, then it’s not automatically your responsibility to try to figure out whether I’m in the market exclusively for an Antarctic parka, or to declare pre-emptively that yours happens to be the Spanish-moss kind.
Not to mention, even if you didn’t ask for Spanish moss, you may find that you like it enough to stay home with it rather than go on your antarctic voyage.
Oh yes, the old, “You just haven’t found the right Spanish moss parka” line. So ignorant!. 
Thanks for the chat Kimstu.
The OP did not say transgender, it said gay.
Yes, I know; see post #9.
You think the average gay person cross dresses? You should read between the lines of the OP.
Kimtsu said more than just a hint which I agree with. I was being nice in the post she responded to.
This. In what world is it okay to beat someone up for having the wrong genitalia? I don’t see a difference between the gay and straight scenario except that the woman might possibly be afraid that the penis-wielder intends to rape her. But she still has to ask the person to leave, not assault him. (Unless he DOES attempt rape or other violence. But then it’s not about the penis, it’s about the violent threat to the person.)
Yeah, I’ve never heard of a gay person dressing up to “catch” a straight man, I suspect the thread is really about trans women. Personally, I think it’s wise to warm a potential sexual partner about anything that might shock them when you take your pants off (unusual genitalia, a tattoo of Donald duck, whatever) but assaulting someone for having a penis, or a tattoo, is a horrible and criminal thing to do.