Jaywalking is only an offence in the USA. In civilised countries it is cars that are considered a nuisance to people and so pedestrians have the default right of way.
I’ve seen cops act violently from fear/anger/lack of self-control, and for political reasons, and also once out of simple sadistic stupidity. This shouldn’t even be a question of the cops professionality but his very manliness - surely the weakest of us would have found a more minimal level of force to restrain a girl than a punch in the face? I would not trust him to walk my dog let alone any public-facing role.
(i) didn’t watch the video – he was phsically hindered from doing his job; and
(ii) have no clue about the real reason for U.S. jaywalking laws – they’re to protect pedestrians.
Any non blind person who watched the video saw the girl he punched push him before he punched her. That’s assualting an officer plain and simple.
more evidence that you get your jollys just fucking with people with your bullshit posts. It’s no skin off my nose but it loses it’s appeal real dam quick.
If you think the right response for a police officer who is already having difficulty manhandling a woman for a bullshit offense, is to then punch another woman in the face for trying to intervene, there’s not a lot I can do for you. And to do it in front of a crowd of people? On his own? The man was a fucking idiot and was lucky to avoid getting kicked to a pulp.
People keep saying that as if her gender should be a huge factor. How about her physical size and weight? She was as big as the officer.
Have you no sense what damage a large mad determined woman can do? I’ve seen several women draw back and full on punch another woman or a guy square in the face and drop them.
He was assualted by someone as big as him while he was trying to arrest someone else. There really wasn’t much sense in trying to reason or plead with her to be nice. He had already warned her and she still came on and pushed him. If it wasn’t a punch then some other violence was going to happen. Mace? Taser?
Twist her arm, throw her to the ground and pounce on her back? Once you assualt an officer their job is to immobilize that person ASAP so they can’t hurt the officer.
I have no position on whether a law enforcement professional would physically attack ivan astikov, but I have no trouble believing that one would gag him.
So you’re adding anti-feminist to your list, then? She got the same treatment anyone else would get, and she got off lightly.
She committed the offense, there was no bullshit involved except in your peabrain.
Your belief that law enforcement should be subject to the immediate popular whim of the crowd is discarded as unrealistic. You’ll also note the crowd tacitly agreed with him–where does that leave you, chuckles?
He did not assault her, but she assaulted him? What weird logic. I can not image people can actually defend him punching her in the face. But there are a not of people who blindly defend the cops in all cases.A well trained mature cop would not have sucker punched a lady. He would not have risked escalating a rather innocuous incident into something huge. It was a stupid thing to do.
Correct. Maybe we’re making progress here. He had a legal right to do what he was doing, ie, arrest the other girl. She had no legal right to interfere with that arrest, nor did she have any legal right to touch the officer. When she did that, she broke the law, and he was entitled to use force to defeat her interference, to complete the arrest of the other girl, and to arrest the one he hit.
Again, it does not matter whether you think the jaywalking, failure to obey a lawful command, resisting arrest, or assault on a police officer laws are wise, just, or sound public policy. Had neither girl jaywalked, this would not have happened. Had the first girl obeyed the lawful command to stop and receive her ticket, she would have been ticketed and released. Had she not resisted arrest, the officer would not have manhandled her. Had her friend not interfered, the friend would not have been hit or charged with a crime for assaulting an officer.
As opposed to getting leg-swept into the pavement and then arrested, as the officer was trained to do and by department policy supposed to do? Yes, she did get off easy.
She’s lucky she didn’t get tazered or worse. I have no pity on someone interfering with a policeman performing his duty.
Notice how her boyfriend was trying to hold her back before she twisted away from him and got in the policeman’s face. And he finally got a hold of her again (after the punch).
It didn’t help the situation with the cameraman repeatedly asking, “Are you serious? Are you f*****g serious?” Hell yes, he’s serious. He’s a cop; what he does is serious.
(And reviewing it again, I think someone said, “C’mon, bop her!” just before he did.)
Really? The woman twisted away from her boyfriend, got between the officer and the woman in black he was trying to arrest first, and shoved him back. That’s assault plain and simple.
If you’re saying that it was just an innocent push, what the hell is the threshold that police should use before calling it assault. Simply put: you forcefully touch a policeman, that’s assault.
One, she wasn’t gesturing, she shoved him. And two, this is Seattle, in the USA. We (supposedly) taught to respect the police. (Although respect for police is not as high as it should be in urban settings.)