How to stop someone from jaywalking: punch them in the face.

I have it on good authority he wrote that within the last six months.

I think I may have just fallen in love with you.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Fucking pigs.

Knowing how what passes for goddamn cops’ minds, he’ll probably get a promotion.

Leave it you to make this about race when nowhere else here has done so, in your rabid need to take a swipe at the “liberal media,” whatever that is, whenever you can.

Leg sweeps were brought up because police brass in Seattle mentioned that it was an acceptable choice and part of accepted police policies and procedures. Nobody but you exaggerated that into ninjas and judo throws.

I think the officer should have exercised better judgement also, but you’re confusing generally chivalrous conduct with choices that have to be made in taking control of an escalating situation. In that instance, the gender of the perpetrator cannot be taken into account when an officer is trying to effect an arrest. Even in general personal interactions, sometimes a woman needs to be hit if it’s necessary for physical self-defense.

Once again you completely avoided offering any viable alternative. So he was wrong but you have no idea what he should have done after being assaulted.
I just watched the video again. There’s quite a few seconds after the punch and he is calm and doing his job. He makes a special effort to not cause unnessecary injury when he could have just throw her down and jumped on her to subdue her. I noticed a young male is trying to hold 2nd girl back to keep her from interfering as her hysterical cousin gets cuffed but she pulls away. She touches the officer and he pushes her back. She then pushes him and he throws the punch. As he tries to cuff her for assualt hyterical girl number one jumps on him. Fortunately the friend that tried to restrain her pulls 2nd girl away and the officer does not escalate the stuation. He calmly continues to do his job and keeps asking girl #1 to calm down and cooperate. If he was really pissed he wouldn’t be doing that.
This is not an altercation between male and female that the male can just walk away from. Oficers male and female have maintain authority on the street. If you’re trying to give out a simple ticket and the person refuses to take it they are escalating the situation not the officer. If they try to just walk away the officer has to respond. If they refuse to face the car and put thier hands behind them the officer has to respond. He cannot shrug it off and say “maybe next time”
Sure, she just pushed him, but doing that to an officer while he is trying to cuff someone is assaulting an officer, and he has to respond.
I see no reason for him to think asking her to turn around and allow herself to be cuffed would be cooperated with. Would you have felt better if he maced her or tasered her?
I’ll ask again. What do you think is an appropriate response by an officer to being assaulted while trying to preform his duty and suddenly dealing with two antagonists.

Let’s note that 2nd girl was not a poor slip of a thing. She’s as big as the officer. She doesn’t get a pass because she’s female.
I’ll add that while seveal onlookers are critisizing the officer one defends the punch saying “with good reason, she grabbed hold of him”
The officer was calm and professional and the 1st girl was a hysterical drama queen who refused to cooperate. I suppose 2nd girl thought she was defending her cousin but you do not assault an officer while he’s cuffing someone without repercussions.

I want to find this guy and offer to buy him a beer or three. I’m guessing he’s a boyfriend of one of the girls and somehow I get the sense he know how this was going to end.

Yep, he was also smart enough to pull her out of the fray when girl 1 jumped on the officer. Otherwise the officer would have had to be more vilolent in defending himself.

Just for yucks I tried to find a different video because I noticed others there filming. What I found was an article talking about these two princesses have police records including the assault of a female officer, stealing a car, assaulting and robbing a 15 year old.

One reason this is a big deal in Seattle is another fairly recent incident involving other officers who did beat up a Latino using racial epitaphs. Any violence questioned has to be examined because they are already under scrutiny

racial epithets, cosmosdan.

Well, she did threaten to stomp him to death.

Man, how disappointing. We’ve all gotten used to you spewing nothing but stupid shit in every police-related thread, but it’s at least it’s usually entertaining. From the beginning of the thread, I was waiting to see what kind of dumbassery you’d drop in this one, but this is just weak.

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Is that meant to be funny? Wtf does any of that have to do with anything?

ps. And the “viable alternative” was to do his job properly and find something more worthwhile to do with his time on duty.

:o well der. Thanks. No wonder spell checker didn’t catch it. I spelled the wrong word correctly.

You sure you used spellcheck?

He was writing tickets at the crossing as part of a police department-mandated crackdown due to a high volume of pedestrian injuries and deaths there. So he was doing his job properly, having been told what was worthwhile to with his time on duty.

I have no problem with the events as they unfolded, although I do think Seattle is a bit draconian in their enforcement of jaywalking laws. That said, if you live in Seattle, you know the score. And no matter where you are, you touch an officer in an aggressive manner, you should expect physical consequences.

[sub](Oh, and it’s clearly “effect” to me.)[/sub]

How high a volume? Compared to where? Have you seen the paperwork related to this crackdown?

And seriously, Seattle’s crime-rate is low enough that jaywalking is a high priority?

It was intended to satirize the immense stupidity of your proposed “logical progression” in which a cop deserves to have his ass kicked by a third party for using force in the course of an arrest of a resisting suspect. I could have approached it in other ways, for example, continuing the progression: the third party then deserves to be shot dead by a SWAT team, members of which then deserve to be hunted down and killed by a confederate band of reflexive anti-authority morons like yourself, who then deserve to be annihilated in their hideout by a Predator drone…

I don’t have any particular love for the police, but despite that—perhaps *because *of that—I have no sympathy to spare for idiots who lack the minimal common sense to know you don’t escalate a situation with a cop, and *especially *not physically, unless you’re fully prepared for it to end with you hurt or dead.

I’m also tired of the predictable take we get from some posters every time one of these stories comes out. Example: guy throws a Burger King wrapper on the ground, cop tells him to pick it up, guy gets mouthy and in the cop’s face, cop warns him, guy dares the cop to arrest him, cop takes him up on the offer, guy resists arrest and ends up getting tased/bruised/broken in some fashion or other, and sure as shit someone on here will say “what, now people deserve to have their asses kicked by the cops just for littering?”

Well, in that case, it wasn’t very good satire.

I don’t care if it’s a cop or not, if he did that to a woman I was with, for a similar pathetic reason, I’d be fighting with him.

Yes,because cops never pick and choose when they are going to stick to the exact letter of the law, do they? If a cop decides to make a point of something just because there is something s/he doesn’t like about a person, they are being an asshole, not an officer of the law.

You miss the point, which is understandable because it’s right in front of your face and you’re not particularly bright.

Well I thought it was hilarious. And now, after reading your posts in this thread, I’ve just punched my cat.

I hope you’re happy.

I’d probably punch your cat too, given half a chance.