How to use apostrophes, for fuck's sake

The use of apostrophes even on this well-educated board is occasionally woeful. They’re not that fucking hard to learn. I’m going to tell you how to use them. Two little rules, and one addendum. That’s all.

1: Apostrophes are NEVER used to denote plurals.

No, not if the word ends in a vowel. No, not if it’s an abbreviation*. NEVER.

Example of how to do this:
     I ate three burritos.
     I ate seven tamales.
     DVDs for sale.
     The 1920s.

2: Apostrophes denote either a missing letter, or possession.

Examples of missing letter:
     Didn’t - short for did not.
     It’s - short for it is.
     That’s - short for that is.
     You’re - short for you are.
     '90s - short for 1990s. [OK it’s a missing number - same principle though.]

Example of possession:
     The cat’s basket.

If it’s a plural and a possessive then you move the apostrophe to the end of the word. Example:
     The dogs’ bones. [The bones belong to the dogs.]

If the plural doesn’t end in a letter S, then you do it just like the singular:
     The children’s playground. [The playground belongs to the children.]

Addendum: Treat the possessive “its” like you would “his” or “hers”.

Example:
     See that car? I like its color. [The color belongs to the car]
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*This is possibly a debatable stylistic point, and, IMO, is what caused all the confusion in the first place. So fuck off.

Speak for yourself. I use apostrophe to relax to, entertain, amuse and shock most Zappa neophytes with.

Possession my ass.

Thank you, jjimm, for this very timely post. I was going to post something on this subject just last night but the boards were too slow. You see, yesterday I received an email at work that had, by far, the worst apostrophe error that the world has ever seen. For those of you who are bothered by such things, I suggest that you read no further.

I have a co-worker named Charles. He is a well liked and competent man who had to take the day off yesterday. Jenny (NCTPTI) sits next to Charles and was asked to inform all of us that Charles wouldn’t be in for the day. She sent the following email to the entire company:

Jenny, an apostrophe does not mean: Hey everybody, I just wanted to let y’all know that there will be an s at the end of this word.

Haj

Hajario, that’s pretty damned bad, and I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with regard to the reason for misuse.

For further amusement, check out this picture that I took the other day in Dublin.

Continue your lesson jjimm, besides the pronoun it, what about other pronouns, one, for example: should the possessive be one’s or ones? Eh?
::sound of can of worms opening::

Ooh, never thought of that. Pronoun one possessive is one’s. Don’t ask me why, or how I know. If I’m proved wrong I’ll cry.

Its
His
Hers
Theirs
Ours
Whose

but
One’s
Of which

I just checked in Fowler’s Modern English Usage, and this is correct.

Fowler also goes on to say, delightfully:

Did jjimm just break Gaudere’s Law?

I have a team of keen pedants scouring that OP, but as yet, no results…

:eek:

I’m sure the one minor error I’ve made will eventually be found…

Bless you for this thread, it’s one of my pet peeves. "It’s " has its own rule, forgot where I heard it but here goes:

When is it “it’s”? When it is it is.

When is it “its”? When it isn’t it is.

I believe that the apostrophe in the possessive of the pronoun “one” is to distinguish it from the plural.
Examples:
To neglect one’s education is foolish.
He left all of the ones in his wallet, but put the fives in the desk.
The ones who committed this deed will be punished.

Regarding “its,” “hers,” “his,” and so on: They are not exactly parallel since there’s a distinction between “her” and “hers;” the former is a true possessive whereas “hers” is used as an object.
However, “his” is used for both situations.

The dog chewed its bone.
The girl ate her sandwich. (Not “hers.”)
The sandwich is hers.
The man ate his sandwich.
The sandwich is his.

Thank you for posting this; it is an incredibly easy concept that is ignored continuously. I can almost excuse omitting the apostrophe, since it is relatively easy to accidentally do so, but going to the extra trouble of inserting an extra one is IMHO inexcusable. How difficult a concept is plural and possessive, after all?

I don’t have a picture, but I swear I have seen “ladie’s clothing.”

Sometimes you see “boy’s gym.” When I see that, I always think, “What a lucky fellow, to have an entire gym all to himself. I wonder who that boy is?”

Some styles permit the use of an apostrophe to form the plurals of letters and digits (H’s, 2’s) and also some abbreviations* (Ph.D.'s).

But I agree that too many idiots sprinkle apostrophes all over their writing and signage, like jimmies. Yucko.

*Yeah, I know you said it’s debatable. Just giving an example.

I needed this thread. Thanks.

Bob the Angry Flower will show you how to use the apostrophe.

I have a photo of a hand-painted sign on a neighbor’s fence: the sign says, “BEWARE OF DOG’S”. About half the folks to whom I show the photo laugh and say, “Beware of dog’s what?” The other half ask me why I’m showing them that particular picture (sigh).

Excellent OP. I suggest that repeat offenders should be strapped down while we tattoo it on their chests.

Bonus Colloquial Nitpick:

It’s y’all, not ya’ll. You all. You’re dropping the “ou”, so that’s where you put the frickin’ apostrophe.

Bravo, jjimm! I was going to make a point about the plurals of letters, as in

, but Scarlett67 beat me to it. Guess I can’t make that point now. :slight_smile:

One request: would you please now tackle the difference between “loose” and “lose”? Some people seem to need reminding… Thanks!

Your just picky. :mad:

Hell, even the NY Times doesn’t know how to use possessive apostrophes: they are notorious for printing “It was built in the 1960’s” and “She was in her 20’s.” They admit it’s wrong, but they still keep it up. Drives me nertz.

I found jjimm’s typo! I found the mistake! Gaudere strikes again.

As has been mentioned, “whose” is a possessive pronoun that does not take an apostrophe. It is easily distinguished from “who’s,” the contraction of “who is.”

loose: adjective, opposite of tight. lose: verb, to misplace. Somebody do “affect” and “effect”!

Apos’trophe
Cos’mik Debri’s
Dont’ Eat The Yellow S’now
Father OB’livion
Nanook Rub’s It
St Alphonzos’ Pancake Breakfas’t
S’tink Foot
Uncle Remu’s