What does tipping have to do with anarchism?
I can’t decide if I love you or want to hang you from the nearest lamppost.
Maybe both.
That’s a specific form of anarchy.
My University was chock full of shitheads like that in the 80’s. The retarded illogic in their views made my brain want to explode when I had the misfortune of trying to talk to one of them.
Slams JacobSwan’s head repeatedly into the wall
I’m just surprised I managed to get in there first. The coffee comment was such an obvious setup.
I went to an anarchist cafe once. I was asked to pay in dry spaghetti. The coffee was actually tea and an employee hiding in the rafters dumped a bucket of confetti on me while the clerk behind the register smashed a cream pie into my face.
I managed to get out just before a flashbang blew out all the windows.
Then the owner should have polled all customers and only asked the cop to leave if there was a consensus, right?
Actually, the owner should have polled all anarchists in the Portland area to see if there was a consensus on that decision, or should it be Anarchists of America? of the World?
That’s going to be tough to get anything done.
I prefer to transact for coffee (or any hot liquid) in an environment of relative calm, but all bets are off when it comes to burgers.
There is no owner. It is a collective. You have, however, identified one of the big problems with Anarchy. It is pretty much impossible to get shit done (if I am in a collective of 20 people and 19 of them want to do something a particular way I can “move to block” and it won’t get done) and meanwhile entities that have a hierarchical structures take decisive action and walk all over the consensus based groups.
Also not up to speed on which forum you are posting in, either.
Discrimination is discrimination, obviously. For most people, the statements “we don’t like niggers round here” and “we don’t like pigs round here” are pretty much equivalent.
Not for everyone, worse luck.
Regards,
Shodan
That was a Surrealist cafe. Common mistake.
I can’t say that I find you incapable of honesty and nuanced thinking? It this part of the kinder, gentler dope? Has this place become that milquetoast? What a shame. Sorry if I hurt your tender feelings.
I think that you will find that most people are smart enough to see the difference between not wanting a disadvantaged group in a particular establishment and not wanting agents of the very system that makes it possible for there to be disadvantaged groups in the establishment. Your comparison is obviously logically flawed and designed to create a false equivalency where none exists. Presumable because it serves your relentless defense of an oppressive system and anything that cloaks itself in a badge or a flag.
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Binarydrone.
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In my case it’s the overpowering body odour.
Not sure why this thread arrived yesterday, as this happened a couple of months ago, but…
…it’s important to point out that there’s lots of tension between the Portland Police and many diiferent resident communities (more when this happened back in May) due to a series of what could have been interpreted as wrongful shootings - namely that the Police were involved in a number of shootings where it was questionable whether shooting rather than other non-lethal means could have been used, and whether a “blue wall” was going up to protect the officers involved. Here’s one article about shooting number 2 that happened a little before this coffee shop thing.
This sparked several protests, which I’m sure begat this incident. Seeing as how they’re anarchists and all.
You of all people are making this argument? Seriously? Of course it’s your right, in the sense that I was using “right.” It astonishes me that you’d object to that.
Shodan’s post is not nearly so astonishing.
FWIW, discrimination isn’t discrimination, any more than violence is violence, or romance is romance. These are things with degrees. Claiming this is like Jim Crow is to show massive ignorance of Jim Crow, just as claiming that the cop is racist (since he doesn’t know from Jim Crow) is to show massive ignorance of how racism works.
There are plenty of circumstances when someone may discriminate against or in favor of someone because of their job, and it’s okay. I guarantee that cop has gotten free coffee at some other restaurant simply because of his job; that’s clearly discrimination. If discrimination is discrimination, then a cop getting free coffee=a black man getting lynched.
Fortunately, discrimination isn’t discrimination.
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Let’s see them try this on someone that really matters. Like water department people do work in front of their store. “oh sorry, did you need water to make coffee? So sorry, it’ll be back on in a week. No flushing!”