Oh, please, do share.
If you read the cafe’s website - 2 people came out with boycott signs, and a bunch of customers stood behind them in support of the cafe.
Close – they reversed the colors. It actually says “Boycott Black & Red Cafe.”
Look, don’t get me wrong here. I am very aware that being an Anarchist is pretty much something that only middle class 20-somethings with a whole lot of white privilege can do. So I don’t pretend that their positions are entirely reasonable. In a lot of ways they are a lot like the Libertarians in that their political ideology seems to not take actual human nature into account and has no real chance in the real world.
However, that does not mean that some of the points that they make do not have some validity. The fact is that at the moment the Police and the State have forgotten that they are here to serve the people and not the other way around. More and more cases of police brutality come to light seemingly every day. Citizens are not allowed to film police (or at least that is what they are trying for). We have a shocking number of citizens incarcerated and the State seems to have more power than ever before and seem to be becoming hopelessly corrupted by it.
At this point when you see a police officer it is actually a fairly intelligent reaction based on evidence to be afraid. I am saying this as a law-abiding tax paying 100% above board citizen.
Your dislike of anarchists. Duh.
You’re not supposed to believe anything. Clearly, you’re a total fucking idiot.
Yeah, but I am at least able to read and follow the forum rules. So I have that going for me.
Whoops. I just randomly assumed this was in the Pit. I do apologize. :smack: Reported my post.
No worries. I am curious, though, as to why you think that my assumption about that cop is wrong. I would have to assume that if you are born and raised in the area that you would know where the Anarchist cafe is. I would also assume that an officer of the law would have a pretty good idea about the way that him walking into an Anarchist cafe would make a lot of the people there feel.
He was denied use of the premises; he was asked to leave, while everyone else was permitted to remain.
That said, “police officer” is not a protected class. Cafe owner didn’t do anything illegal; he’s just an ass.
I’ve lived in two major cities in my lifetime, both of which I assume have the same token anarchist presence as anyplace else, and I’ve never even heard of an “anarchist cafe”.
Unless the cop happened to be more politically savvy than most Americans, there’s no reason to believe he’d know that red and black are popular symbols of the anarchist movement. Did they have a big A in a circle in the shop window, or something? Doubtful.
Given that he was in the area on other business, limited on time, and headed right out once he had his coffee, yes.
Well, you seem to know it (I guess that mindreading course really worked). For those of us who don’t automatically assume nefarious motives and who believe that buying a cup of coffee is sometimes just buying a cup of coffee, it’s quite plausible that he had no such thought in mind. Might have even thought that being a pleasant customer, in and out without hassling anybody, would be a step in improving relations.
And the owner, despite being afraid of the power of the police and THE STATE, still had the nerve to order the cop off the premises, thus inviting a beat-down(that didn’t happen).
Along with needing to have a business license, conforming to the health code, paying wages and taxes under the Labor code, etc.
Hows that anarchy, rebelly thing workin’ for you?
No, actually there isn’t.
“I don’t like members of group X in my store”. You don’t object to one value of X, don’t expect much sympathy when X = some group you favor.
Regards,
Shodan
You really see no difference between a culturally and economically dominant group passing laws to codify unequal treatment of a non- dominant group and an Anarchist collective establishment asking a police officer to leave? Really?
I have not been around for a while, and I had forgotten how incapable on honesty and nuanced thinking that you are. My bad.
I didn’t even know that I disliked anarchists. I would totally have tried their vegan coffee.
Aren’t pretty much all of the potential clientele of an anarchist cafe cogs in the wheel of the oppressor (except for the “houseless” people, maybe)? Why would a cop necessarily be specifically unwelcome?
I think the horse is out of the barn there.
The coffee is fine, but the tea tastes awful. But what do you expect from a bunch of people who think proper tea is theft?
My understanding is that Anarchy is the belief that society should function without hierarchy and that all decisions should be consensus based. As such, they would tend to see a big difference between some random guy like me (an unwilling participant in an oppressive system only needing to be liberated and shown the way) and a cop (someone who has made it their calling to be an actual instrument of the oppressors and is actively helping to maintain an oppressive and unjust system). Or something.
Oh that fucking sneaky bastard! I bet he didnt even leave a tip in the “make hemp legal” jar.
I notice the anarchist baristas specifically ask for tips. Isn’t tipping the kind of socially imposed expectation that anarchists would rebel against?