Does “uplands” translate necessarily to “high ground”? It seems like that could refer as well to horizontal reference as well as vertical. To, “it comes as Osiris” doesn’t make me think that it was called Osiris. It’d be like saying “help comes in the form of a helicopter” means that help is the name of the helicopter.
It was during this w3g-festival that the mks-sceptre was unpacked so the men would know to report to work;
Given the context of the quote, I would interpret it as a term for the heated plains of the land.
Isn’t that a good thing for some crops? Rice paddies come to mind.
Still not what was asked, you told us you will produce a cite when requested, you are not demonstrating where is that Egyptologists told us that the pyramids were constructed during the growing season, I have to take then that no, egyptologists do not say such a thing.
While ALL the physical, cultural, and historical evidence favors the concept of geysers much of my argument is the logic that ties this evidence together. It has to be because peoples’ beliefs and expectations are refuted by the evidence. I not only have to show I’m right and Egyptology is wrong which is double the work I should have to do but then I have to show how it’s possible for me to be right.
Many of the last few dozen posts are just the logic involved.
How do you find a source to support logic? People either see it or they can’t.
Ha ha. If I link the site again the same thing will happen.
Computers are funny that way. Why not try one of those hits and if it doesn’t work I’ll try a different one?
Actually your link to one should suffice so let’s just consider this point established. Egyptologuists are correct when they say that pyramid building occurred in the peak growing season with no crop in the ground.
Can you get a taste of what I’ve been through trying to establish every little point? even when it’s common knowledge? People see the ancients as stinky footed bumpkins but call them sophisticated and intelligent. When I look ayt this from another perspective people think I’m reinventing the wheel. And this is all before we even get to the hard part. Wait till you see the hard part!
The world simply isn’t what you think it is no matter what you think. It was hard for me to adapt to it and I was almost an ancient Egyptian before I started. I was almost the world’s last caveman.
No, even what you posted here has no logic, all the reported and most energetic and regular cold CO2 Geysers are reported to exist in mountainous regions, (and noticeably not in Egypt) and most of them were drilled by humans, not a natural thing.
With that realization one has to then conclude that modern drilling equipment was used by the ancient Egyptians or the ancient aliens to dig deep enough to get the stronger water pressures that is needed for what you proposed.
There is no evidence for that.
And lets not forget that the gods were ancient aliens according to Tomb and Hancock, so don’t think for a moment that you are not suspected to still push for that idea too.
I can do a better translation of that gibberish: you can not find a good quote from an egyptologist, you only demonstrate failure after failure to be convincing.
I don’t think he’s even saying that. He says that they built it during flood time. I believe he’s correct on that part.
He also says that flood time is peak growing time. This is the confusing part. What I *think *he means is that the months of flood in Egypt coincide with peak growing time in other lands.
The thing for me is, there’s no reason to assume geologists or whoever the fuck studies geysers would be in collusion with Egyptologists, so why has not a single one said anything at all in the entire English internet about them? If you look up " geysers Egypt" you get cladking’s other forum forays, the sun king stuff that his buddy stole from him and completely unrelated stuff. It’s pretty obvious that there is no discovered evidence that points to geysers. So what the hell, cladking? There’s a bunch of ways to get water into those counterweight sleds. Why are you so wedded to a geyser fantasy?
Eta: oh yeah. Your gut translations that the eye of horus is a water tower aperture. Come on man!
100,000 ton water collection devices, water worn canals, cliff face counterweights, carbonated aquifers, historical accounts, and what the builders said that was carved in stone.
The most interesting of the words carved in stone were the titles of the builders which were old favorites like “Overseer of Canals”, “Overseer of the Side of the Pyramid”, “Anubis Priest”, “Overseer of the Boats of Neith”, “Weigher/ Reckoner”, Chief of Sculptors", Overseer of a Boat", “Captain of a boat” (who hauled casing stones from across the river), Overseer of the Metal Shop", Chief Mason", “Chief of Carpenters”, and the various jobs that don’t survive but are mentioned in the PT like “ferryman”, “blessed dead”, and “mud trampler”.
There’s also the pictures of building pyramids with geysers carved into stone and painted on walls. And there’s the ample infrastructure in the area that’s consistent with the way they actually built it by pulling stones straight up the side one step at a time. Everything fits together like a hand in a glove.
What there isn’t is any evidence for tombs, ramps, bumpkins, or an ossified people.
None of that is physical evidence of geysers. Not a single one of those examples. You can imagine uses for them if there WERE geysers but they are categorically not physical evidence of geysers.
There’s evidence for ramps and tombs because we’ve found ramps and tombs. You see the difference? ?
It’s not water pressure per se that drives a CO2 geyser. Yes that which is below is like that which is above (water pressures are equal) but all that’s needed is heavily carbonated water and this creates its own pressure.
Some things are easier to think of in the ancient science.
When the carbonated water becomes supersaturated as the water approaches the atmosphere the pressure that forced it into solution is effectively released. The CO2 expands and forces the solution through openings. The Egyptians sought to block all the openings and prevent backflow which would dilute the water. Their knowledge of thesewas much more extensive than our knowledge but, of course, our understaning of the physics is much better and is quantifiable.
This is a very unusual perspective even for the Egyptians;
930a. N. hath found the spirits well-equipped by reason of their mouth,
930b. sitting on the two shores of the śḥśḥ-lake,
930c. the drinking-bowl of each spirit well-equipped by reason of his mouth.
930d. “Hast thou no eyes?”, so said they to N.,
930e. the spirits well-equipped by reason of their mouth.
930f. Said he, “a spirit well-equipped by reason of his mouth.”
931a. “How has this happened to thee?”, so said they to N.,
931b. the spirits well-equipped by reason of their mouth,
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937e. N. takes water with you out of the mn-canal (or, lake of the nurse) of N.,
937f. the drinking-bowl of each spirit well-equipped by reason of his mouth.
The “spirits” of the water (I3.t-wt.t) (CO2) are very one dimensional and express themselves only through their mouths by which they are powerful. No other natural phenomenon known to the ancients were like this. They called the process “nntknw” where the closest approximation today is “degassification” which was a son of “nehebkau”; the hydraulic cycle.
Maybe I’m wrong and this is all just incantation like Egyptologists believe. But if it’s incantation and we don’t understand it then there is no cultural context.
They didn’t have modern drills. They had ancient drills which were 6" pipes they used to make circular cuts. The core was probably removed by drilling a smaller hole in it and inserting a wooden plug with a rope attached. When the wood swelled up the core was broken free and the plug lifted. This would have been repeated to about 80’ where the water source existed. There may have been other ways to do it that I’ve not thought of. They did obviously do some plumbing under the earth as well.
459a. Men bury themselves (in their grave (?); the gods fly up.
The way we think it’s easy to forget that the Osiris Shaft is a massive excavation with flowing carbonated water at the bottom. There is also a mud filled cave here which was probably not mud filled when the excavation was made. It was things like this that made Chris Jordan propose artificial geysers rather than natural ones. I didn’t agree with his opinions but his insights were brilliant and he wrote the first book proposing geysers a couple years ago.
It’s easier to see these patterns if you keep it all in mind.
YES! Egyptologists are correct that it was built during the flood.
But they are suggesting having the flood during peak growing season was such a boon that they could afford to drag tombs up ramps.
Everything is perspective and we’vcvew been told “they mustta used ramps” in so many ways that it’s part of us. Worse is that the ancients have been considered bumpkins for centuries now. Our thinking is founded on the concept that once people were stupid and superstitious but we’re all better now.