How were the pyramids in Egypt built?

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All I got is what they said. They said the king was converted to smoke and ashes in the funeral pyre on the east side of the first step to which he ascended exactly like the stones ascended.

I have some crude drawing I made based on my understanding of the PT if you want to see them.

It’s far easier for me to believe the builders than to believe Egypotologists. Egyptological beliefs just don’t make any sense to me ever since 2006 when I finally saw how big the pyramid actually is. Egyptologist use a lot of semantics to demean it and make it seem small but it isn’t.

Why would I lie. I believe there’s less than a 2% chance aliens had a direct role in construction or the reason to build it.

Of course this is a very difficult number to estimate so is derived principally from guesswork and fit with other physical evidence. However I will say the fact the pyramid exists constitutes far better evidence it was made by aliens than that it was made by ramps.

Don’t forget the builders said the gods made it and maybe the referent for “gods” was aliens.

Let’s just agree for now it probably weasn’t aliens or ramps. :dubious:

so - aliens had an indirect role?

Pay attention, I was talking about making a physically based computer model, no need to even get your hands dirty, but it is clear that your ideas need to be cleaned.

Once again, see the documentary of Houdin on how an outsider can do it and convince the experts about a theory. One can start with simple 3D modeling software that is free to download, Show then how one puts several of the tubes one after the other to see how far they can go, propose how the drilling towers looked like and how they were made too and any traces of evidence that show them. And where underground we can find water and the right rocks to get the CO2 reaction going.

Mind you, to get a sizable fountain like Crystal Water in California they had to dig 800 feet underground with modern technology. Your model has to show how that was possible in ancient Egypt.

Suffice to say by this time you may succeed with a simple model that ignores physics, but as soon as you reach the level of contacting proper computer modelers you will hit a wall because they will advise you about the bits that are impossible to do, so that is why I’m confident that you will never do this.

Then why don’t you quote that part.
You only quoted a bit about them burning incense.

Oh, and what do you mean by ‘superstitious’? You are using it in an odd way.

???

Adjust your irony meter accordingly.

QFT

Or your coppery cubit. :slight_smile:

Well, if you’re still enjoying this, have at it. I can’t throw any stones, I keep coming back to this train wreck. (I’m waiting for the Templars or the Illuminati to show up. Or the Masons, since claddy’s a 19th century kinda guy.)

Would you use the standard Egyptian forearm length for that, or would you use a standard galactic grays forearm length? I believe that most grays have longer arms than humans, as well as larger heads. What’s Giorgio’s gut feeling on that? I hear he’s adapting his Puma Punku theory to include geysers now…

If this is the way you treat facts and logic I’m not sure I’d even want to see what happens with fabrication and make believe.

The amount of water required is really very nominal. Most of the pyramid just doesn’t need to be lifted very high and the work the water can do is tripled because it was also used on the cliff face.

I’m surprised you think the math for dragging stones works but lifting them five or six at a time without breaking a sweat doesn’t work. You must work with people who forth a great deal more effort than what I encountered. It was unusual when they even broke away from the lunchroom.

Computer modeling is meaningless. Computers are just crunching numbers and following a program. In order to use math properly you have to have ALL the equations and be able to quantify all the variables. I don’t really know whether the systems had capacities of 15 or 20 tons. I don’t know how must water came out of the geyser or how fast they could lift it. I can estimate they had about 5.5 HP but this might have been used at 75% efficiency or 50%.

If something is so complex you need to model it with a computer you’re already lost. They work well enough for things like wing flex on airplanes but it’s just an exercise in circular reasoning (circular programming) when you have to start making stuff up.

Egyptologists did computer modeling of ramps a few years back. They didn’t even design a ramp for it since there is no ramp system that can build a cladded pyramid. They just programmed a slope to 481’ and asked the computer how many men were needed. Sure it was interesting but it didn’t really mean anything. It can’t prove that any stone was ever lifted on any great pyramid with a ramp. Computers can’t run on garbage and if you make up numbers and equations they’ll tell you anything you want.

You’re forgetting my pictures of ramps being used to build pyramids, cladking.

If people can read things like the king ascends to heaven on the smoke of incense and not admit this has a literal meaning then why even try with the more complex things they said. People insist on believing they were stinky footed bumpkins so maybe we should just stick with the physical evidence.

Many pyramids are obviously stepped and the one we peered into with gravimetric scanning is stepped. The one that collapsed ius stepped. There’;s no evidence any of them weren’t stepped.

So why do you think they went to the intermediate step of building steps? It’s a whole lot of extra work if they’re just going to hide the steps anyway.

http://indietravelpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/Meidum-temple-egypt.jpg

You’ll need to remind me of this.

The debunkment was post #152.

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Computer modeling is meaningless. Computers are just crunching numbers and following a program. ** In order to use math properly you have to have ALL the equations and be able to quantify all the variables.** I don’t really know whether the systems had capacities of 15 or 20 tons. I don’t know how must water came out of the geyser or how fast they could lift it. I can estimate they had about 5.5 HP but this might have been used at 75% efficiency or 50%.

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Computer models use math properly and quantify all the variables. Computer models are not magic.

The irony here must have a strong magnetic field around it. It is you who engage in circular reasoning and making stuff up.

Yet somehow you are running on garbage. Your entire theory is based on supposition. If you were serious about it you would attempt to prove that your geysers existed, you would prove that that your interpretation of ancient symbology should be accepted, and you would attempt to show that your model could actually be used to build a pyramid. One 5.5HP geyser powered lifting device would not get the pyramid built in a century much less 20 years. 5.5HP at full efficiency replaces 11 men at full efficiency. So your geyser system might operate at as little as 50% efficiency according to you, yet somehow you believe that some elaborate system of using geysers was preferable to keeping a 6 man crew working in the same time frame. How many people were needed to operate the geyser-lift you dream of?

The debunking of your debunking was #784.

So his debunking is totally bunk now?

This is an illogical and nonsensical assertion with no evidence or loguc to support it. I suggest you look at post #152 again.