How were the pyramids in Egypt built?

I doubt it.

Unless there is public pressure to do science they will continue with exactly as they are doing now. There are vast resources pumped into Egyptology that fuel the status quo and they’ve not been doing science for nearly a third of a century now. This is just the way it is. Zahi Hawass climnbed out of the Osiris Shaft in 1996 and said “there are important clues how the pyramid was built down there”. He never explained the statement and when the Osiris Shaft was later excavated he did nothing about excavating at the bottom where the water flows. They pump large amounts of water out of here on a daily basis.

The Tomb of the Birds with its cave was sealed up even before the political problems began.

They are still working in excavating here (principally at "KhentkawesTown about 2000’ south of G1) but theyt are looking for rampos and all the wrong things in all the wrong places. Houdin was given permission to do the infrared scan and then it was rescinded. They are afraid of the pyramid.

Not impressed at all, again your insistence that the water is degassed goes against all evidence observed with the cold water geysers in existence.

Again, you have no evidence, and you are going against physics and chemistry too. It is no wonder why I and many others concluded long ago that it is you the one relying on magic to make your contraptions to work in your mind.

And as usual no one is believing what you claim when one can check how ignorant you are:

Archeologists and engineers did dig and investigated the cities of the workers of the pyramids and robotic exploration of the pyramids was done in 2002. The research in the recently discovered cities of the workers has continued too.

And exploration and digs continue there and elsewhere:

You really need cites for all the unbelievable things that you claim.

Apparently you do and you appear ignorant about Egyptian economy.

Although there was some barter, on a small scale, the Egyptian economy was foremost a redistribution economy.
All produce went to the state and was redistributed as rations. There was no money, no gold standard. If anything there was a ‘grain standard’ for products outside the redistribution system.

‘20% of GDP’ is a hollow phrase in this system. They would have received their rations anyway, regardless if they were peasants, bureaucrats, priests, soldiers, masons, miners or whatever.

This economy was hardly fragile, the values placed on goods could remain the same for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Egypt was incredibly fertile and even with lower yields, in case of a bad flood year, hardly any real famines show up.

More gobeldygook.

While this actually does apply to you the rest of us can use logic and the available evidence to draw some reasonable conclusions. We realize that what we are doing is speculation, but we have some chance of finding supporting evidence or re-evaluating those conclusions because we aren’t just making stuff up.

Ok. Where?

Also…your logic is really going off the rails here. You say that the word “ramp” didn’t appear until after the great pyramid buildin’ age, then note that the only writing from that period that survives is the PT, then note that “ramp” appears in the PT. So, are you just assuming that “ramp” wouldn’t have appeared in other writings if we had them, or what?

Why would ramps be important to the culture? It’s a construction technique, nothing more. Are suspension bridges important to our culture? Reinforced concrete, perhaps? Cripple walls?

To recap: you can’t explain 1197a-1198b, you won’t address the existence of other large, religious construction projects, you’ve abandoned logic entirely with your “attestation” games, and you have no evidence that the geyser water would somehow be de-acidified. Doing yeoman’s work, there, cladking.

First there is a pyramid
Then there is no pyramid
Then there is …

As far as I understand him, he thinks that the PT is an instruction manual for building the pyramids. All the references to gods are actually construction techniques. References to Horus are actually describing a geyser, and so on. The PT only mentions ramps once, so ramps weren’t used in the construction.

Does he? He also said they were rituals to be read to assembled crowds to commemorate the dead king:

Maybe they were both. I’m sure cladking will clarify this.

Like the late Earl Warren?

Earl Warren wasn’t a construction manual!

I guess I really was mistaken. This will be the first science done in nearly thirty years (outside the status quo) and will confirm geysers if it’s done properly and measures the height of each point.

http://www.aeraweb.org/articles/the-2015-great-pyramid-survey/nggallery/image/01-glen-dash-survey/

This really restores a lot of my faith in the intelligence of mankind.

They are the ritual read to crowds as the great pyramids were uunder construction but these rituals were redacted after the geysers failed and then recorded in the tiny little pyramids.

Since they were written by the builders themselves initially it is possible to understand their thought processes. The way a person thinks is always disclosed by the words he chooses to communicate. These words are so enigmatic largely because each Egyptian thought differently than modern people. And, of course, they are written in a language that can’t be translated. But once the words are understood you can still understand the thinking.

Are you the only person on earth that doesn’t understand that your first sentence isn’t compatible with your second sentence?

That they are mentioned at all is an inconsisteny with my theory. Indeed, when I first found the word I nearly just gave up but the more I learned the more I came to understand that the fact is not problematical for my theory or at least not necessarily problematical.

As I’ve said many times there is no doubt that Egyptians were familiar with concept of “ramps” and it would be an everyday word in their lives. So the appearance of the word in the PT can be just coincidence. The fact that it is used to describe a walkway reinforces the idea that it’s coincidence. But the biggest thing is that this attestation of the word is from after the great pyramid building age. There is still no overseer of ramp builders and still no overseer of stone draggers. All the facts remain facts despite the appearance of the word.

But you said no writing earlier than the PT survives, and the PT is from a century after the great pyramid…so how could the word be “attested”, if there’s no writing from the time period?

I feel that’s a little unfair to cladking. Clearly, something about the Pyramids deeply impressed him and fired his imagination to the point that he’s spent a decade thinking about them. And for all the nonsense he’s spouted, he has never denied that they were built by human beings, using their minds and bodies.

If he’d spent all that time actually studying the history and culture, which I very much doubt he did, instead of viscerally staring at the pyramid texts, he could have become an accomplished Egyptologist.:wink:

oh, but you seee - by doing what he did - he became the only true egyptologist.

No matter which side you take, it always leads back to cladking being correct. It’s like a Mobius strip.

He’s an Egyptopologist!