How were the pyramids in Egypt built?

“Pyramidiots” are the only people doing real research on the pyramids since 1986. Unless you return artefacts and believe the four assumptions you are not allowed to work anywhere near the pyramids.

Most of my sources before 1986 are Egyptological.

I’ll be fine. I just want my perspective seen.

It’s this mad idea that sincerity might at least convince someone I’m not an AI program.

A 2 second Google search shows images and notes from the re-discovery and exploration in 2010. Good grief, have you never thought to actually look any of this stuff up? There are tons of additional articles, if you can slog through all the wide eyed woo links to find the real stuff.

ETA: Found this (kind of wooish, but has some info anyway):

Figure this is what you are talking about wrt ZH:

The evidence so far shows that you will not be able to do that even.

:rolleyes:

Please, just in my case my trainings in social sciences, history, computer science and computer graphics, with plenty of experience in library science and academic office work.

Many of the generalists in the SDMB beat me by having even more science degrees and experience.

The tower of Babel can be explained by having the myth come from people that was living in exile and in the first big cities, that attracted trade from very far away, finding a lot of different languages and then a coincidental destruction of a city that usually happened during the many conquests of the day is enough to then get the myth going.

Perhaps, but when the sincerity comes in the form of “I am making the most profound discoveries for humanity in thousands of years”, there are a few more things that we might start to think about you…

No!! No discoveries. I’m not even smart enough to have made discoveries using ancient science. :o

But this is the biggest “rediscovery” in 4,000 years not 1,000. Calling this a rediscovery of biblical poroportions is an understatement of biblical proportions!

100% wrong as shown in the video linked from the National Geographic and many of the links made before. There has been plenty of research done since 1986.

Oh, well that changes everything. You’re just making the most profound “rediscovery” in thousands of years. That’s definitely, absolutely not delusions of grandeur.

Yes. Everything can be explained in other ways. We always have explained everything in other ways. I’m not saying we need a new way to explain things, I’m saying that there is a more accurate way to see almost everything.

The language became confused at whatever babel was and modern languages were born. The ancient language ceased to exist and we are left with the confused languages that arose at “babel”.

This is really all incidental to how the pyramids were built. They were built just as the PT and the physical evidence show; stones were pulled up the side one step at a time. This explains the actual evidence and ends the need to dig for ramps.

Modern people have this absurd notion that ideas are a dime a dozen. We value only invention and discovery. You might think rediscovery is important but fromn the ancient perspective all rediscovery is just a dime a dozen. This rediscovery is still a landmark one since it will lead to so many more.

The only thing of real value to humans are ideas. It’s ideas that lead to hypothesis and eventually to theory. WWithout ideas in experiment design there will be no theoretical progres and everythings comes to a halt and then stagnates and dies. “Invention” is usually incidental tohuman progress because once an idea is established the invention will follow from one person or another. Invention tends to have more aspects of being cheap than ideas. Rediscovery is another things that is cheap because if I didn’t find this someone else would have.

I have no delusions. I just had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the visceral knowledge to know current opinion is a crock.

Zahi Hawass on the ‘Tomb of the Birds’:

In a curious twist to this discovery, the now infamous Zahi Hawass, made several controversial public claims concerning the rediscovery of the cave system at the back of the Tomb of the Birds, all of which are on the public record. He first denied the existence of any natural cave system, following which he stated categorically that it had been previously ‘explored and reported by many scholars’, for which there is no record. He then proceeded to excavate the site himself for several months, and fitted a metal gate across the entrance. The results of his excavations have yet to be released to the public.

‘When they [Salt and Cavaglia] explored it, they called it a catacomb because it contains some tunnels and corridors cut deep into the rock. Anyone who enters this tomb may feel they are in a maze corridor because of the multiple tunnels, and it seems more than its 35 meters long’…‘There are other passageways cut into the rock from the main corridors, but these are short tunnels’…

…‘I can say that there is no underground cave complex at this site’…
I have no knowledge that he worked this site at all. I have seen first hand accounts that there were tools left inside shortly after he appeared in the cave on international television but to my knowledge the use of these tools and the reason for their prtesense has never been established. It is certainly possible that this was an official or semi-official operation.

I seriously doubt there has been any activity since the gate was installed.

You wouldn’t know if you did.

There’s a possibility you have something. But you’ve failed to convince a single person here that this is anything more than crackpottery. If you have something, based on what you’ve posted, there’s no way for anyone else to see this.

When folks suggest building a model to demonstrate that it’s possible, that’s a good idea – why not just do that?

Trying to prove existing beliefs is not “research”. Experiments are supposed to be repeatable but this doesn’t make every attempt to duplicate one “progress”. This goes many times over when there is no new data being acquired outside of the expectations of the researchers. Modeling ramps might be interesting or even necessary but it’s not research while the infrared signatures aren’t being gathered or studied. If you’re sure there is gold hidden in the pyramid and finding it will lead to vastly more tourism then you must look, but it’s not research. This is the common denominator of almost everything they’ve done at Giza since 1986; they are seeking to prove existing belief or improve access and numbers of tourists. It’s almost like it backfired. :frowning:

Now that you mention it the ancients were a little like a mobius strip with their thinking and language on one side and their works and expressions on the other. They were inseparable and all part of the same thing.

I’d be proud to be thought of as an “Egyptologist” but hardly qualify and I believe this term is headed for the ash heap of history.

Nature is a bear. If there were no crop and no produce nobody woul have had anything.

Nature is a motorcycle.

…hilarious…

Cladking, perhaps inadvertantly, linked to an actual cite, in post 1687:

There was indeed a Sumerian origin to the biblical story.
This story dates to the third period of Ur, after the Gutians were driven out of power.

As i stated in my response, there’s a good chance that the basis of the Sumerian story is the remembrance that looong ago Sumerian was THE main language spoken over much of the known world. Which is southern Irak.

This “cultural context” thing refers to some beef between you and Egyptologists who may or may not exist, or be aware of you. It’s got nothing to do with what’s being discussed in this thread; no one has tried to rebut your claim with “cultural context”. Try responding to posts here, instead of reciting unsourced arguments you’ve had in the past with other people. I mean, what I am supposed to do with your post here? “Boy, you said it, those unknown people who cited ‘cultural context’ in some argument I haven’t read and know nothing about sure are wrong!”

Anyway, there are a number of outstanding points you’ve failed to address or follow up on, so I’ll refrain from posting further until you slow down and get around to that with meaningful replies.

Not my problem that you are telling all about your ignorance, you did not see the video nor the links, the robot camera with a drill was the result of a previous investigation done in the pyramid.