How wide are air traffice "lanes"?

Let’s say you’re a commercial pilot for one of the big airlines. You fly a big jumbo jet of hundreds of people back and forth across the country. On any routine trip from, say, New York to Los Angeles, how much room to maneuver do you have in your plane?

Since there are no signs in the air or markings of any kind, and suppose the standard altitude is 35000 feet (I have no idea, just throwing out a random number), can you go down to 34000 feet? How about 30000? Instead of going 400mph, can you speed up to 450, or take a more leisurely 375? Arrivals are calculated to within a few minutes, but surely there’s a lot of wiggle room for turbulence, weather, and delays into and out of an airport. If you’re behind, can you gun the engine or if you’re ahead, can you slow down?

I used to love flying United because their in-flight entertainment channel included listening in on radio traffic. For a lot of the things you’re asking about a pilot would tell the local tower that that’s what he was doing.

Anyone know if they still do that (the airline, not the pilots!)?

As for leeway to do barrel rolls and the like, wouldn’t flight paths be carefully calculated and submitted by the airline? From what I understand, deviating from the flight path without cause/warning is a major infraction (you don’t want to get pulled over by the sky police).

Of course real pilots will be in shortly, my only addition is the radio traffic.

Assuming you’re flying a commercial jet at 35,000’ for starters you’ll be flying on an instrument clearance since you’ll be in class A airspace and will have to do what ATC tells you.

It depends on your clearance but in general if ATC tells you to fly at 35000 feet you won’t get in trouble if you stay between 34900 and 35100 feet.

Above 10,000’ you can fly as fast as you like unless ATC tells you otherwise. Below 10,000’ there’s a 250 knot limit.

ATC Keeps planes at the same altitude at least 3 miles apart. The “Airways” are usually 8 nautical miles wide.

These are general rules and there are exceptions to all of them but it gives you some idea.

Right, and one key point in answering the OP is that there is not one “standard” altitude. Planes fly at many altitudes, and above a certain level they are directed to a particular altitude by ATC.

You are not allowed to deviate from your assigned altitude at all, however as mentioned above staying within 100 feet is acceptable though unprofessional. You would expect the altimeter on the side of the pilot who is flying to read within 20 feet of the cleared altitude. Most autopilots make this a trivial task, more antiquated systems such as fitted to the aircraft I fly require pilot input to maintain the altitude, even with the autopilot on.

You are not allowed to make any deviations from track at all without first getting clearance from ATC.

There are no speed restrictions above 10,000’ so you can go any speed you like unless ATC tell you otherwise. ATC will require you to maintain a specific speed or to cross an airway position fix at a specific time so that you can be fit in to the traffic flow. If there’s no other traffic near you, you won’t get any restrictions.

For turbulence and weather, if you know in advance that you won’t be able to maintain your track you can request clearance to deviate around the weather. If you get in to turbulence and can’t maintain altitude you have to let ATC know and get a change in altitude. For altitudes you can also get a block clearance which allows you to fly within a block of a few thousand feet so you can freely look for smooth air.

There is one exception to track keeping which is that you may fly offset from the track by 1 or 2 nm to the right to help avoid having a collision with an aircraft going the opposite direction who is at the same altitude as you (due to an error by ATC or the pilots.)

It’s called “Channel 9” and all United mainline (not United Express) flights still have it. Beware that it is at the captain’s discretion, a few don’t like to turn it on. (“Do I come to your work and eavesdrop on you?”) Note however that the Continental planes don’t have it. (Some of the Continental planes have no in-flight entertainment at all.)

There are also web sites where you can listen in on ATC.

Listening to the ATC channel on numerous flights, I have heard instructions to pilots such as “reduce speed to mach .85 for spacing” so I assume that if you are getting too close to the guy in front of you, they have you slow down a bit.

Yes. The choke point is generally the destination runway/s. The enroute controller has to make sure that the aircraft in his sector are spaced not only to be separated from each other but also to fit in with the traffic flow from other sectors all headed for the same destination. You might get speed control when there’s no one else around but it’s to fit in with other traffic on different routes inbound to the same place as you. Also as everyone slows down from 400-450 knots enroute to 250 knots in the terminal area and then back to 130 knots on final approach it all gets bunched up. You need lots of spacing enroute to make it work for the tower controller.

Microsoft flight simulators say that west bound flights are assigned even numbered flight levels (26,000, 28,000 etc) and east bound flights are assigned odd numbered levels (25,000, 27,000 etc). Don’t know if that’s actually true or not. If it is, pilots probably keep a reaaaaal close eye on the altitude!

Yes, that’s correct. And it’s not really a close eye. 1,000 feet is a lot of separation. Losing 1,000 feet accidentally would be like drifting two lanes over on a highway unintentionally, except would take a whole 60 seconds or so. It’d take a lot of distraction for that to happen. North, btw, counts as East and South counts as West.

‘Odd Fellows Fly East.’ i.e., eastbound IFR flights get odd altitudes, and westbound flights get even altitudes (FAR 91.179). Eastbound VFR flights get odd numbered altitudes plus 500 feet, and westbound ones get even numbered altitudes plus 500 feet (FAR 91.159).

Yes, 360º to 179º is ‘east’, and 180º to 359º is ‘west’ for the purposes of establishing cruise altitudes. (The FARs call 360º zero degrees.)

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The big jets at higher altitudes use the 1000-foot separation. VFR ( IIRC 18,000 feet and below) uses the 500 foot separation. The odd-even-east-west rule.

In pilot training for instrument, one of the things they really ding you for (I am told) is significant deviation from asigned altitude. From what my instructor said, 20+ years ago, 50 feet was a guaranteed fail in your flight test. 25 feet was bad. Where it’s most critical is where there’s a lot of traffic, near the airport. Otherwise, you are generally on a path from one big destination to another, and everyone esle is on the same path. ATC should warn you if you are on a path converging with someone on a crosspath. They will divert one of you to a different altitude (for big jets, IFR).

For visual flight, you pick a valid altitude, and the odds are extremely low someone else will cross your path on the same altitude, except near an airport where ATC can tell you what’s happening. As you approach airports, you announce to the world and ATC who, where and what you are, and you listen for conflicting traffic.

There was a case about 15 or 20 years ago in northern Canada. Two planes collided head on because they were flying at the same altitude to and from the same destinations. GPS was a new (unofficial) navgation aid, and apparently was so accurate that by following its path, two aircraft in the middle of nowhere collided pretty much head-on. After that the recommendation was (IIRC) to fly at least 100 feet to the right of the direct GPS path, just in case. Of course, one of these planes was violating the VFR 500 foot standard altitude separation rule.

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Altitude is read from altimeter based on relative air pressure; altimeter is calibrated based on local air pressure; your take-off and landing sites and many en-route will tell you the local barometer reading so everyone can set the altimeter for the correct reading. Big jets also have radar or other electronic altitude system, IIRC.

For visual flight, you pick a valid altitude, … Of course, for meandering sightseeing, this rule may not apply. The only significant rule is “stay 500 feet up, stay 1000 feet up over built-up areas”. IIRC, these numbers mean “above the tallest buildings in area”; stay some X thousand feet from tall obstructions like TV towers. Except, when landing and taking off.

I assume you’re referring to this case? It’s a fascinating case — I had never heard about it before. Looks like the subsequent recommendation was to fly “one to two miles” to the right of the GPS track, though (cite.)

Big picture, ATC is all about injecting predictability into the operation of lots of independent aircraft. Combing the unruly herd into nice smooth lines dovetailing neatly into whatever choke points there may be. So in terms of overall doctrine, pilots have a great deal of flexibility to do as needed, but generally follow the herd unless there’s a reason not to. Reasons not to vary from “I will not fly into that thunderstorm on our planned route” to “If I cut this corner & fly the hypotenuse I save $200 of my employer’s fuel & arrive 2 minutes earlier.”

It’s sorta like driving through a big parking lot. When it’s busy & many cars are parked there, you really must follow all the painted lanes & signs unless you want to have a collision. At 3 am when the place is empty, you’re able to drive diagonally across the lot at 50mph with no concerns.

For airliner ops we’re always dealing with ATC & complying with their efforts to comb the herd. But unlike, say, dealing with a traffic cop, ATC’s goal is to let all pilots do whatever they want, as long as it’s consistent with the big plan. So if I want to drive diagonally across the parking lot at 70 mph I ask for that. And here’s the key difference: they’re obligated to say “yes”, *unless *that would interfere with somebody else doing something more orthodox.

At 9pm over Texas the answer is almost always “yes”. At 5pm over NYC the answer will always be “no”. So we don’t bother asking in that situation. But a good pilot is always “working the system”, trying to enhance safety or economy by gently pushing ATC for whatever amendments will improve their situation. Knowing when, where, and how hard to push or not is one of the key judgement areas.
Altitude: Folks upthread have addressed altitudes pretty thoroughly. To summarize: When operating under ATC control and in level flight, you own the round-thousand-foot altitude you’re assigned & crossing or opposite direction traffic can pass 1000 ft directly above or below you. Between tolerances in altimeters & tolerances in tracking the altimeter, it’s possible for the actual separation to become less than that. The intent is to operate exactly on altitude; being 40 feet off is sloppy & being 100 ft off is beginning to become unacceptably unsafe. Alarms typically sound at 250 ft off altitude.

At low altitude where non-ATC controlled aircraft can also be found, they slip in between the plies of ATC-controlled aircraft. So the non-ATC controlled aircraft might be at 7500 feet while jets are going by at 7000 & 8000. You’d try to avoid stacking 3 airplanes over exactly the same spot at exactly the same time. But it can & has happened.

While climbing and descending the steepness & hence the point at which you arrive at the new altitude is pretty much totally up to the pilot. As a practical matter, there’s a most-efficient way to fly any climb or descent and most pilots operate to maximize efficiency. And most aircraft of a similar type (e.g. most jetliners) have similar-enough performance that each airplane more or less does a particular climb or descent the same way. Where necessary, ATC will publish pre-planned routes which have both a horizontal path & vertical wickets to fit through. When operating on one of those routes the pilot must fit through each wicket. If weather or some other factor makes compliance impractical the pilot & controller negotiate a deviation. Unless traffic is extremely dense this is no big deal.

It’s most efficient for jets to cruise at a slowly increasing altitude as fuel is burned & the aircraft gets lighter. When traffic is light we can get a “block” of multiple altitudes from ATC & very slowly ascend from the bottom to the top of the block. It may take a couple hours to climb through a block and during that time the entire range of altitudes is ours to use as we see fit. This is most often done on coast-to-coast or oceanic flying.

Speed: As stated by others above, most of the world, including the US, mandates a max speed of 250 knots below 10,000. In a jet we generally go as fast as we can until / unless we have to slow down. And 250 is definitely slower than we’d ideally want to go. So while you’re free to climb out or descend at a lower speed, folks just don’t.

Enroute … Our flight plan has told ATC what speed to expect. Which was decided upon by the flight planning software at our HQ based on aircraft type, schedule, winds, weights, etc. We’re free to change that at any time, but are to advise ATC if it varies more than 5%. We often speed up if late or slow down if early, shy on fuel, or encountering turbulence. As a practical matter we can’t speed up much more than 10-15% before we hit the aircraft’s max speed. We usually can slow as much as 20%. Slowing 20% increases our endurance and would be used if going to someplace that’s backed up with holding due to weather or whatever. Slowing much more than that actually increases fuel burn & is not used.

For arrivals and to a lesser degree departures from busy airports ATC will often assign specific speeds to several airplanes to adjust spacing through a wicket. The expectation is everybody will comply with speeds plus/minus 5 knots or advise ATC if unable.

This often leads to silly / frustrating exercises where they ask us to stomp on it for 5 minutes & then slam on the brakes & go slow. The whole goal was to move us forward a bit in the more-or-less stable gap between the guy ahead & the guy behind.

When there’s not enough time/space between here & a wicket to achieve the needed spacing using just speed adjustments, they’ll tell somebody to zig-zag a bit to move backwards compared to the rest of the herd.

Routing / horizontal navigation. You’re expected to stay as close to on your track as possible / practical. With older navigation systems, “on course” while in cruise might be left or right of course by 5 miles. With modern GPS-based stuff, enroute “on course” is defined as +/- 2 miles. So while you’re free to wander back & forth a couple miles, it’s not professional; Typical errors are a hundred feet left/right or less.

In the departure & arrival phases, the definition of “on course” goes down to +/- 1 mile. And during approach to a runway, it shrinks from 1500’ left/right at 5 miles to just a handful of feet as we near touchdown.

Bottom bottom line: “Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with a lumber crayon, and cut it with an axe” is an oft-repeated saying in the business for a reason.

We make a strategic plan before takeoff down to the gnat’s ass, then fly what we & ATC need to best get the job done under the conditions of the moment. Both we & ATC are continuously adjusting the tactical plan to optimize the operation from our respective (and often conflicting) perspectives. But at any given time the goal is to comply with the tactical plan-of-the-moment as closely as possible. Which is a generally plus/minus 20 feet vertically, a hundred feet horizontally, and 5-ish mph.

Which is sorta like saying if you imagined a ghost aircraft just touching above, below, and at each side of us, we remain within the envelope of the surrounding planes. I.e. within one “car length” of where we’re expected to be in all 3 dimensions. I need the other pilots around me to be where they’re expected to be, lest we scrape paint. So I in turn have to adhere to the same standards for their benefit.

Right now precision in the 4th dimension, time or equivelently along-track position, is much lower than the other 3 dimensions. It ranges from plus / minus 20 or more miles enroute down to plus / minus 1/2 mile or so at landing. One of the big goals of increased ATC & aircraft automation over the next 20 years is to compress this precision a bunch & thereby cram a lot more jets into a lot less space.

I have my doubts. Absent weather, mistakes, malfunctions, and emergencies it’d work great. We’ve come a long way on the latter three over the years. Weather control has thus far eluded us. And when one of the latter 3 does happen, the error bars suddenly go from a handful of feet to thousands of feet or even miles. There better be empty space over there, not some guy 300 ft. away in the next “lane”.

Here’s a thread about a pilot getting permission to take the New Orleans Saints for a victory lap around the Superdome on their way home. :cool:

Yeah, I was once told to do a 360 to the left on approach to give the guy ahead more time to clear the runway. Then, I got crap from the ATC after I landed for turning to the right. Im dyslexic that way; I bet youre glad I`m not a professional pilot… :frowning:

Are pressure-based altimeters really that accurate?

Related to this, could someone explain how the altimeter calibration works? Say plane A has taken off from New York where the pressure is 990mb. Plane B has taken off from Houston where the pressure is 1020mb. Their altimeters will be calibrated differently: IIRC 1mb equates to a difference of about 30 feet, so the difference in calibration between the two planes would be about 900 feet.

How is this accounted for? Are the altimeters regularly updated in flight to account for the changing local pressure? Or (as I dimly recall reading), are the flight levels set to a standard pressure so that above a certain height you ignore the calibration and use the standard pressure?

And if the latter is the case, how do you transition between the two when coming in to land (at which time I assume you will be given the local pressure at the destination airport so you can recalibrate your altimeter)?

Yes, modern pressure based altimeters really are that accurate. Or at least what they are is all consistently calibrated to the same tight tolerance. So if they’re off, everybody is off the same amount.

Prior to about 15 years ago we used 2,000 foot vertical spacing above 29,000 ft. Precisely because at those high altitudes the pressure difference between 29,000 & 30,000 (or 43,000 & 44,000, etc.) was so slight that the worst case of barely-within-tolerance instruments didn’t provide enough clearance if we tried to operate only 1,000 ft apart. Nor, statistically, was the manual or autopilot tracking of altitude precise enough often enough.

The industry spent a lot of money to upgrade the altimeter & autopilot systems of older planes and a lot of old jets got sent to the desert. Now we can resolve altitude tightly enough to safely operate with 1,000 foot spacing all the way up to 50,000. Not that any airliners get to 50,000, but bizjets do.
You got the rest of the altimeter setting process correct. When flying at a low-ish altitude (below 18,000 ft in most of the world) you set your altimeter to a local setting within 200 miles of your present position. You begin with your departure airport setting, reset it every hundred-ish miles as you go and end with your arrival airport setting.

When climbing above the so-called “transition altitude” (again 18,000 in most countries) everybody everywhere sets 29.92 inches Hg or the metric equivalent: 1013 millibars. And when descending down through the “transition level”, you reset to the local setting provided by the local weather folks.

There is a buffer zone right at the transition level / altitude to ensure we don’t have people at overlapping actual altitudes due to using the different setting standards.

So near the ground everybody in any local area *should *be using the same setting which will give consistent readings between both different aircraft & between any aircraft and the terrain. And at high altitude above all mountains except a bit of Andes & Himalayas, we use a single universal setting to avoid the need for frequent changes & the possiblity of screw-ups. The net effect is that on an ideal jetliner flight we set altimeters just 3 times; once before departure, once climbing through transition altitude, and once descending through transition level. In the real world it’s not uncommon to get an update during either the departure or arrival phase. In all but the most dynamic weather that update’s difference is typically 10-20 ft.

As a matter of nomenclature, altitudes below the transition altitude are called “altitudes” and are written conventionally: 15,000 ft or 4,300 ft or whatever. Altitudes above the transition altitude are called “flight levels” and are written FL290, FL450, etc. (meaning 29,000 or 45,000 feet as indicated on an altimeter set to 29.92).

“I don’t always terminate radar contact, but when I do, frequency change is approved.” - The Most Interesting ATC in the World.