How Would You Fight A Terminator

Wait, I never saw Terminator 3…did they actually use a magnet on him?
Hrm.

The film is inconsistent on this point. When John and Sarah and the Terminator T-101 are escaping from the mental institution the T-1000 forms hooks out of its hands and jumps on the back of the car. It uses these hooks to stick into the trunk and hold onto the moving car. The T-101 climbs into the back seat and shoots the hook off a couple inches beyond where it penetrated the trunk, thus causing the T-1000 to fall off the car and be left behind. A couple minutes later, as they’re speeding down the road, the remains of the hook(a small piece of the T-1000, about fist sized) begins to rattle against the trunk. John reaches out the back and grabs it quickly and tosses it on the highway behind them. It remained a hook fragment until the T-1000 walked up next to it and then it liquefied and rejoined the body.

If the T-1000 was able to exert its will through every piece of itself, this was a golden opportunity to kill John. Turning into a spiked ball at high speed would have punctured his hand, at which point it could have curved like a fishhook and climbed up his body until it hit something vital. At very least it should have been able to mimic him(it never showed the ability to do so) because it had come into contact with him. So it seems some large amount of the T-1000 needs to be present to show decision making and intelligence skills.

The opposing argument is when all the tiny shards move of their own accord in the foundry. Drop-sized globules show movement and purpose, but a fist-sized hunk couldn’t. I wonder if there is some critical mass of the T-1000 which has to be present within a certain distance(maybe controlled through radio waves, which drop off in power as a square of distance?) to get a sense of purpose.

Enjoy,
Steven

Notably, even the nearby fragments didn’t actually do anything but flow together. Perhaps there is some kind of short ranged radio/magnetic/whatever field, but it’s only good enough to tell nearby severed chunks where to flow to.

The evil terminator in that movie, played by Kristanna Loken, was effectively a hybrid of the Schwartzenegger and Patrick models. She had a liquid-metal shell, so she could flawlessly mimic the appearance of any human (that she had touched, presumably) over a solid exoskeleton in which she carried a variety of gnarly tools and weapons. There’s a scene in T3 in which she is chasing John down a curved access tunnel alongside a particle accelerator that is charging up. When it reaches full power, it exerts enough of a pull to trap Loken. She damages it enough to get free, though this takes several minutes.

During the various smashy-crashies, her liquid shell gets scattered. It was able to find its way back to the robotic exoskeleton like so many silvery worms.

Given what I’m likely to have around, and the noted behavior… well. Liquid nitrogen… not so handy. I do have… hm.

Case of cans of air, pump shotgun. One shot into the case of air, three into the terminator. Reload, continue fire. Grab the most disassembled bit, stuff it in a ziplock baggie, drop it in a trash can, give it to someone to run off with. Repeat fire. Pick up another bit, and so on. Scatter the sucker over 20 miles. Then see if I can find some way to actually destroy one small part. Once I do, eliminate every bit.

Have my name legally changed to something other than “Conner”

  • with a Voigt-Kampff test.

This suggests another tactic. Pay other people to change their name to Doc Cathode. Sarah Conner was warned when two other women of the same name were killed.

Or just get the hell outta L.A. All the bad stuff happens there.

By putting it on Friday night.

Cameron found a tortoise in the dessert flipped over on it’s back. She just put it right side up.

I can’t believe that a movie about time travelling killer robots would stoop to such scientific implausabilities. :slight_smile:

Really? I don’t watch the show.

IIRC, msmith537 is a little bit off. In episode 9 (Complications), Cameron watched Sarah righting an overturned tortoise. Later, when she and John were waiting in front of Ellison’s house to ask him about the whereabouts of Cromartie’s body, they talked about the incident and Cameron said: “It didn’t seem like much of a threat. We’re not built for cruelty.”

Soon afterwards, she was tossing around Ellison and after she had almost choked him to death, she looked down to the gasping man on the floor and turned him back onto his front.

drastic_quench, since you don’t watch the show:

*Cameron *is a female looking terminator, played by Summer Glau, who was sent back into the past to "protect John (Connor) and stop Skynet (an AI that is going to declare war on humanity – I guess you know that much).

*Cromartie *was another terminator from the future; his mission, however, was the assassination of John Connor. The Connors and Cameron destroyed its chip and buried the body in the desert.

*Ellison *is a former FBI agent who helped to defeat Cromartie. But later, he delivered the body to Catherine Weaver, who told Ellison that she wanted to find out more about the AIs.

Catherine Weaver, CEO of a high-tech company, however, is another terminator, a T1001, who plays a role that is not yet clear. We do know, that it’s not her mission to kill John Connor or protect Skynet. Quite to the contrary, she needed Cromartie’s body to build another AI, that is meant to fight Skynet and “save the world” – for what purpose, we don’t know yet.

This seems like a good tactic for most things in life: Taxes, Impending Fatherhood, someone offering you season tickets for the Mets…

I kid - taxes and fatherhood aren’t that bad.

I’d probably offer sexual favors to the director and the script writers.

Thought I’d throw it out there that Weaver is played by Garbage frontwoman Shirley Manson. Also, the T1001 model is essentially the same type of terminator as the T1000 played by Robert Pattrick in T2. The major difference seems to be that the T1001 makes an effective career-minded single mom while the T1000 mostly glares at people.

The T1001 also has a penchant for clever one-liners right before or immediately after killing someone.
It occurs to me that the scene in a previous epsiode where Jesse and her submarine crew discover their cargo is a T1000 series liquid metal terminator was sort of dumb. One of the crew, unsurprisingly, raises her weapon to shoot it and is instantly killed by the terminator. Presumably because she was perceived as a “threat”. It seems dumb to me that first of all, a machinegun would be no more a threat than a pillow. Second, Conner might have sent a message along the lines of “oh by the way, if for some reason the crew doesn’t listen, opens the case and discovers what you are, they are likely to be really freaked the fuck out. So don’t do anything crazy like kill any of them (since they can’t hurt you anyway) and then hide in the vents so they freak out even more and send the sub into a suicidal crash dive below its crush depth. Just a thought”

I see you and I share much the same strategy, except mine involves more bleeding.

What nanomachine exists? I’ve never heard of such a thing. I’ve heard of some microscopic motors, but the smallest components are orders of magnitude larger than nano scale. Most nanotechnoogy that I’ve seen is just taking advantage of the materials properties that result from these unique structures.