… and the OTHER guy was Walter Mondale.
Coleman, the still-dead Wellstone, or Mondale – YOU make the call!
And I called it for Mondale. 
I have no desire to see how many of my brethren voted for Wellstone, even though it takes a while for the news to get near the North Dakota and Canada borders.
If this thing drags out, could a bunch of peeved Minnesotans file suit demanding a certification on the grounds that they’re being deprived of appropriate representation in the U.S. Senate? Amy Klobuchar can’t keep doing it all on her own forever.
Sen. Klobuchar’s patience is near it’s limit.
“Mad”? She had best get back from D.C. soonest, her emotional reserve levels are compromised.
I read the chapter in Franken’s Lies again, and boy was it depressing.
@dropzone- Do you know anyone that voted Wellstone rather than Mondale? If all the Wellstone votes were added to Mondale’s, would he have won the election?
I get the feeling that the late senator would be a little upset that people are more concerned with personal loyalty towards him than they are with putting the best candidate in office. I got the impression that he was a guy who really cared about good government, more so than his own political fortunes or legacy.
Which part was distorted? The part where they told Dick Cheney to stay home? The part where the crowd booed the Republicans in attendance? The part where Rick Kahn called for the crowd to win the election for Wellstone, and for the Republicans to just step aside? The part where John Kerry apologized to Trent Lott for the way he was treated? Hmm. Ok then. Stay classy, Democrats.
I know that part’s a lie. The two right-wingers who claimed it later admitted they hadn’t been there, and Al Franken was and said it didn’t happen. I can always rely on you to spout their talking points.
Regardless of whether the right wingers were there, Al Franken was, and admitted that Trent Lot was booed, he just tried to minimize it.
(Reflections on the Wellstone Memorial and the King Funeral | HuffPost Latest News)
I was there. There was a smattering of boos for a couple of Pubs when they were shown the Jumbotron (and for Jesse ventura too, IIRC), but it was barely noticable, and it wasn’t like that was anything orchestrated anyway. The event went on for several hours. The vast majoriy of it was completely non-political. Only one speaker, Kahn, who was Wellstone’s best friend, got really emotional and political. It was like 20 minutes of a four hour event, but the media made it seem like that was the tenor for the whole thing. Kahn also wasn’t supposed to do that. It wasn’t like the party wanted him to do that. He just went off the rails.
This post wpould have worked just as well if you had omitted the first sentence.
Let’s not hurl charges of lying at other posters.
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Yes, a whole lot – many of the absentee votes.
It was only 10 days before the election, and most of the absentee ballots had already been mailed in. You could request another one be mailed to you, fill it out, and mail it back, but it was hard to do that in time. And quite impossible, if you were a soldier serving overseas, etc.
And the Republican Secretary of State, Mary Kiffmeyer, ruled that absentee ballots for Wellstone would not count, but ones for Coleman would be counted. (She was a friend of Katherine Harris, the SoS of Florida 2000, and had even had her up here for a fundraising event, so this surprised nobody.)
But even so, this would not have changed the results. Coleman got 49,000 more votes than Mondale, Wellstone absentee votes were only about 12,000. The real spoiler in that race was the Independence party candidate, who got 45,000 votes.
Sorry, didn’t mean it like that.
No! I gasp with horror, clutch my pearls and faint dead away! Oh, those wretched partisan lefties! And after all the nice things tighty rightys said about Wellstone! You remember, how much they respected his stand against corporate war profiteering, how they rushed to support his patriotism. Well, no, neither do I, but wouldn’t it be pretty to think so?
Do not underestimate this.
I voted for Coleman because when Coleman, in his debate with Mondale, pushed Mondale about the marriage penalty. Mondale replied:
“I don’t believe in tax cuts for the rich”
Huh? WTF?
That completely idiotic answer, combined with his mannerisms turned me off Mondale.
Older folk then me refused to vote for Mondale because if his association (to them) with the 70’s…Foreign policy fiascos, oil embargo, high unemployment etc. Some of them even said that it might be unfair…but they couldn’t vote for him because of the association.
Coleman slammed Mondale in the debate…Mondale was defenseless.
I am one who voted for Wellstone every time. I even helped his campaign by volunteering.
I did not vote for Mondale.
While I didn’t agree with Wellstone on many things…Wellstone was a good man. He did what he thought was right and acted on it. He seemed incorruptable…and because of that I always voted for him.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
If you want the Straight Dope on Wellstone’s funeral, go to Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, by Al Franken (Penguin Group 2003), Chapter 25: “‘This Was Not a Memorial to Paul Wellstone’: A Case Study in Right-Wing Lies”:
The next day the Republican Noise Machine cranked into action. Vin Weber called the event a “complete, total, absolute sham,” and that dishonest and despicable meme was fertilized and sown throughout the media. Kellyanned Fitzpatrick Conway claimed that the audience was instructed by a screen when to cheer and when to jeer, like a game show audience. (Not true – but there was a monitor for closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Would you expect less at a leading liberal’s funeral?) Rush Limbaugh claimed the mourners of one of the most beloved politicians in Minnesota history were a “planted audience” and “bused in the by AFL-CIO.” Neither statement had a shred of truth in it. 20,000 mourners attended – much more than the organizers expected; the stadium was only built to hold 16,000. The booing of Trent Lott was embellished into an orchestrated mass demonstration of anti-Pub hate. Christopher Caldwell wrote in The Weekly Standard that viewers “turned on television to watch a solemn commemoration and found a rally devoted to a politics that was twisted, pagan, childish, inhumane, and even totalitarian beyond their word nightmares.” The liars just kept repeating their damned shameless arrogant lies until they became the common wisdom.
Og damn them all! May their hemorrhoids resist surgery! May their tongues swell and their genitals wither! May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their pubes!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
I can live with that. A little Mondale stupidity (the tax cuts thing is pretty funny) I can stomach, but that he crossed some line for some people and that’s fine.
My gripe was more with the people who voted for Wellstone even after his death (absentees aside, thanks t-bonham). If you liked Wellstone and thought that Mondale wasn’t an acceptable replacement, vote Coleman or the independent. If they aren’t acceptable, write-in someone who is. A protest vote shouldn’t be used on someone who obviously isn’t able to take office.
I have the same exasperation for people who write-in Mickey Mouse, or God forbid, Lizard Men. Sure “all politicians are the same,” but at least put in your own damn name!
It can be worse, in Ecuador in 1967 A foot powder was elected mayor.
Bah, that’s par for the course for us. Once, we had three different people acting as President of the country simultaneously. 
