How's Trudeau doing, Canada?

Matthew Perry says he once beat up Justin Trudeau in elementary school; the PM’s ready for a rematch: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/02/entertainment/trudeau-matthew-perry-rematch/index.html

Trudeau challenges Matthew Perry to rematch. I love it. That’s one of the things I like about Trudeau, he’s willing to say things that normally a politician might not say, like in this example challenging somebody to a ‘fight’. While mainly being pretty mature, diplomatic and thoughtful. In other words, I love stuff like this so long as it is occasional.

Let’s not forget this one.

That seems like it is pretty accurate to me. However, it does seem like the voters of Ontario are really, really slow to piss off.

Canada has four major parties, one of them the Quebec Bloc, plays spoiler to get their way.

To point, why make a promise if you know it can’t happen?

The Bloc Québécois got 4.7% of the vote last election, and won 10 seats. While in the distant past, they may have been able to play “spoiler”, they currently have no political power whatsoever, and play no real part in anything that happens outside of a few ridings in Quebec. Even in Quebec, the BQ won less than 20% of the vote.

In short, the BQ are a spent force.

Plus, Trudeau has an absolute majority in the Commons, so the opposition parties can’t stop a government measure. It’s up to Trudeau and the internal dynamics of the Liberal Caucus what measures get introduced.

Seriously?
O’Leary and Leitch are still the Conservative front-runners? Glad that they’re slipping in popularity - they need to slip more. Or hyperspace out of the situation completely. When Leitch praised Trump’s election win, that sealed it for me.
Bernier? Scheer? Chong? I don’t know much about them - hoping they’d at least be a better choice than the first two.
Too bad SK and negono aren’t still around for me to respond to. (or - too bad I came late to the party)

That’s the funny bit.

Well, you can hope your promises will shift enough of the voters your way to make it possible. If you start by assuming you’ll never be able to do anything after an election, what’s the point of contesting it in the first place?

Which will be, at the earliest, the election after the next one. You can bet on it.

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But the former Tory leader Steven Harper has a legacy, too – the guy who was kicked out of power and then ignominiously slunk away from politics altogether
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Harper was Prime Minister for nine years and won three elections, which puts him ahead of most people who’ve held the job. When his time was up, he left. That isn’t a “slunk,” it’s the respectable (and, frankly, sane) thing to do.

Someday they’ll name an airport after him, too; wistfully reminiscing about Pierre Trudeau because they named an airport after him is… uhh… it’s kind of silly, I’m sorry to tell you. Trudeau was widely despised when he was Prime Minister, just as much as Harper ever was. When he resigned in 1984 it’s because the people were turning on him, an electoral catastrophe was looming, and he decided to jump before he was pushed. There are people who STILL hate him. But in time, the general consensus mellows out. Eventually, I assure you they will name a big airport after Stephen Harper - probably the one in Calgary, which, conveniently, doesn’t have a person’s name attached to it yet.

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I’m willing to cut him some slack on the 1st year deficit because I think Harper was overestimating income to make the books look more balanced.
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This doesn’t make any sense, I’m sorry. Trudeau and his party knew precisely what the numbers actually were. The government’s revenue and expenditures are not a secret, and economic forecasts are known to everyone. There is nothing about the nature of the deficit that could possibly be taken as surprising.

The reason he deficit is rapidly climbing is really very simple; the government is spending way more money. The last Conservative budget called for $289 billion in spending. The next budget raised that to $319 billion, and the one after than $330 billion. That’s a 14 percent increase in two years, even thought the economy could not possibly grow that fast, so of course there’s a deficit.

Looking at the polls today and that seems like a safe bet, but remember the next election is 2.5 years away. No one can predict the political landscape during this time. Its possible for Tory support to rebound under a strong inspiring leader who delivers a clear vision of Canada, all the while the Libs are floundering under a smiling Justin with a dearth of new ideas.

Of course ‘possible’ means very little, anything is possible. Trudeau is riding high in the polls and has trounced all comers; there’s no reason to expect otherwise in the future. Of course…stranger things have happened in recent Canadian politics.

Every single new government in our nation’s history was re-elected, except in a few cases where they were defeated by the same party led by the same person who had previously been Prime Minister - Alexander Mackenzie was re-replaced by MacDonald, Bennett was re-replaced by King, and Joe Clark was a hiccup in Trudeau’s reign. A new party leader has never unseated a government after its first mandate.

None of the Tory frontrunners suggest to be the sort of remarkably inspiring candidate who could change that. Leitch will drive red Tories like me away, O’Leary is a clown who will not compare well to the disaster that Trump will obviously be by then, and the rest are boring.

Yes, seeing Leitch and O’Leary play the populism/one-up-man-ship/camera chasing game for constant media coverage is disheartening.

My advice is to not write off the boring ones. A dark horse winner might be able to successfully drum up controversy, champion wedge issues, while also projecting the image of a seasoned, intellectual, and competent politician. Haven’t seen it yet, but I haven’t been closely looking either.

Bernier.

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Oh yes Bernier. MAXIME Bernier. He’s a guy like ourselves, and well known. He has my confidence. Yep, with him, we’ll march forward! We should all vote for Bernier. MAXIME Bernier!

I was eating out today and saw something about parliamentary reform flash by the screen. I can’t find anything about it on the news. Did anybody hear anything about this?

Did you try Google? It’s not hard to find as this has been covered by all of the major media outlets for weeks now. Here’s one story about the proposal.

I think it was “In other news, parliamentary reform is still dead.” :stuck_out_tongue:

But seriously, it might have been about the U.K. plan to reduce the number of seats in Parliament.

Did you notice that this story was in March and it is now April?

I was wondering what, if anything, was updated. CarnalK could be right maybe what I saw flash by was about the UK parliament.