I admit I’m not absolutely clear on the selection method of Vice Presidential Canididates. I’m under the impression that the party chooses the candidate, and while they have (in modern times) almost always listened to the pres candidate, they don’t have to do so. That is, the Pres choses his running mate de facto and not de jure. Consequently, even if Biden dropped out, he’d have to get permission. That wouldn’t be difficult and they’d give him whomever they want, but it would take time he’d much rather spend out on the camnpaign trail.
It wasn’t. You can think well of me again.
Given that Obama’s selection of Biden vs. McCain’s selection of McCain is widely recognized as evidence of Obama’s superior judgment, Obama will stick with Biden to the end.
Obama has to be seen as his own man, and stick by his decisions. Not panicking and riding out the rough water is a test of his presidential mettle.
The big switch wouldn’t, couldn’t happen. Even though Biden is boring, boring, boring, he is a safe choice to even out an unconventional presidential choice.
But, the fact that this conversation is being kicked around shows a deep seated dissatisfaction with Biden and the absolute lack of light and heat generated among the faithful, let alone the undecideds.
Where do you see this being “kicked around” aming the Obama supporters? The OP is an avowed Right Wing opponent of Obama who is simply playing “what if” games in the hopes of stirring up anti-Obama conversation. Biden may or may not be boring, but I only see Republicans talking about replacing him.
So let it be known…“what-if” games and anti-Obama conversation are off-limits until further notice.
All this could have been moot had the Obama camp just listened to me(and a few others) and picked Sebelius. Ah well…
I do like Biden, especially the more I learn about him. I think he was probably about as solid of a VP choice as one could make. Instead of jerking a knee and folding to the Rovian pick of WcCain’s, as the OP would suggest, I think that the two picks should be held up together as examples of Obama’s and WcCain’s first executive decisions. How one picks is made over who could best help the country and the other can really only best help campaign. How one is pragmatic, the other is partisan.
I can’t help but wonder how much of this ‘replace Biden with Hillary’ nonsense is coming straight from the GOP and the corporate media? They were heavilly pushing for her over Obama in the primaries, then there was the nonstop “dream ticket” noise, then the whole PUMA thing(who appear to be much more MOLE like than any sort of large cat). Why would Hillary be a bad idea? Because she can do what WcCain can’t and even more of what Palin can- unite and motivate the Republican base(beyond the rr) to vote against her. They also know there are many on the Dems side that will not for a ticket with Clinton on it either.
All the discussions in the past 3 months about HRC as VP have assumed that she *wants *the job. How do we know that Obama didn’t already ask her, and that she declined?
It was reported last month that Obama’s people never asked for any of Clinton’s paperwork for the good old “vetting” process, which indicates that she was never seriously considered. It’s possible he asked her before doing his homework and she said no, but that sounds really unlikely.
I think it goes without saying that this is not going to happen under any circumstance. Obama picked his VP and even if the Palin pick threw him off, he’s going to stick with Biden.
As others pointed out, the volume of opposition research he carried out during the primaries made a request for vetting paperwork a bit unnecessary. I’m uncertain how much the absence of the request really means.
I couldn’t say. But I do think it’s more likely that she was never considered, and not that she turned the job down.