I am moving to Seattle! See ya Los Angeles

Some of you may have seen this thread where I talked about wanting to leave Los Angeles, and that I was thinking about going to Portland. Well the total lack of food and the authoritarian government in the state of Oregon kept me away, so I am moving a few miles north…to the Emerald City of Seattle!! My girlfriend and I just made the decision today and plans are already in motion.

The move date is November 1st, and while I know that there are many up there in the Pacific Northwest that will be thrilled that yet another Angeleno is coming North, I hope all the rest of the dopers will help me feel like Seattle is home. (It will be hard to eradicate “dude” from my vocabulary, but I will try)

I am going up kinda blind, I have only visited the city once (but it rocked!), but sometimes you just need to jump. So I am moving up without a job and few friends…and am so excited I can’t even describe it.

Any advice or words of welcome from those of you already up there will be greeted warmly. To those of you who are jealous that your city isn’t the one being blessed by two more people running away from Los Angeles take hope, I may hate it after about 18 months, in which case I am coming to your home town, cause I am not headed back to the southland.

Goodbye Los Angeles, goodbye Hollywood, goodbye to the industry (how I loath you in all of your vile name dropping status symbol gaudiness), goodbye to air that makes me sick 8 months out of the year and forces children to stay indoors during the summer. There are things I will miss about you LA, and I will always be glad to visit, but I don’t want to live here.

Awesome, good luck! Actually I’m moving to Seattle in early September. I’ve just graduated college here in Philly and Seattle is a hotbed for the type of work I’m interested in (game dev.) I’ve never been to Seattle but it sounds like a place that would suit me. I’m flying out in a week to spend a week scouting apartments and going on job interviews.

Congrats on your decision! I’ll be watching this thread to snipe any juicy Seattle tips or advice for my own benefit. :smiley:

Allow me to be the first to welcome you to our fair city. I was born here. I’ve lived lots of places, but I always come back.
I understand how you feel about LA. I lived there for 2 years and in SanDiego for 9. My son lived a block from Third and La Cienega. I loved to visit, but after a week, Seattle started calling.
You’ll love it here. We have the arts without the hype.
While the weather isn’t sunny and 70° every day, at least you can see the mountains. There’s a building in West LA that has a mountain scene painted on it. On one of those rare sunny smogless days I realized the mountain scene was of the Angeles that backdropped the building. I’d driven that street a hundred times, and that was the first time the mountains were visible.
Let’s see, I think the job market is picking up. Housing is still pretty expensive, but apartments are available.
Anyway, if you have specific questions, my e-mail is in my profile. Here is a virtual tour of Seattle, if you’re interested.

And you didn’t request a Dopefest?! You should. I’ll be out of town next week, but I think you’re talking about the week of the 21st, right?
There are a number of us web footed boobies up here. At least check into the Seattle trivia thread. I’m not sure where it will be that week.

I hope it is, and that it’s even better next year. I’m getting things done down here, but I can’t wait to get back to the house.

You can just request a Dopefest? I wasn’t aware of the protocol, I guess. And yes, I’m flying in the 20th and out again the 28th. I’ll definitely take you up on the pub trivia if you guys are meeting that week, it sounds like a blast! I’m getting psyched about this move. Thanks! :smiley:

I moved here two and a half years ago, and haven’t regretted it. It’s a beautiful city with lots to see and do. I’m from the boonies, however… but I’ve been more relaxed, moving from a small town to this city.

Hope to see you both at trivia nights, just as I hope to attend far more frequently. They’re a good bunch. Hell, I’m a total fruit loop, and they don’t seem to mind my tagging along. :wink:

Naw, more like a Lucky Charm than a Fruit Loop :smiley:

I tried to e-mail you today, did you get it? If you did, I’ll send you a phone #

I do have one general question, what area of the city should I be looking at living in?

I don’t necessarily need to live in a swanky part of town but my GF and I would like to not pay more than $1200 a month if we can help it (though we could probably push it to $1400 if we HAD to), and while we would be ok with a one bedroom, a two bedroom would be better. I mostly want to make sure we don’t end up living in a slum accidentally. The only places that I have any actual knowledge of are Queen Anne and Belltown, both seem fairly pricey (Belltowns listings seem out of our price range, and Queen Anne is JUST manageable) but there have to be other cool places to live that aren’t horribly expensive. Thanks

Well, as a Ballardite, I recommend… heh… Ballard. It’s very laid-back, has an interesting subculture, and full of Norwegians. Or, as some believe Ballard is just Fremont lite, Fremont may also be a good place to look into. However… erm… it might depend on your attitude. I claim to loathe hippies, but let’s face it, I’m surrounded by the new wave of hippies. These areas have some of the highest concentrations of grassroots, mom & pop shops, and pottery classes I’ve ever seen. Then again, I’m not from California, so what do I know? :stuck_out_tongue:

Magnolia is another great area, though it is on the pricy side. Ballard is in the high-ish end. My husband are in an apartment near the Locks (and Archie McPhee!), one bedroom, a dishwasher, a broken garbage disposal, coin laundry in the basement, for $660 (rent just went up, but it was $635). However, a quick glance at craigslist could find you a pretty decent place in Ballard for $1200 or under… $800-900 could probably get you set up in a decent place with W/D in your actual apartment, as well as the other standard amenities.

Stay away from Aurora Ave. And Aurora. I mean, you could go there, but don’t live there. Bleh.

Anyway, I can only give my view of the area I live in, since I’ve only lived here and in south Seattle (in Boulevard Park - don’t go there, either. It’s just boring. Nothing but grocery stores and liquor stores. Yawn.) Picunurse lives in the U-District, and my husband used to live there, and I hear it’s pretty damn cool, as well, though also can be expensive. However, I have no personal experience, so I couldn’t tell you.

And if you’re looking to live downtown, I’m in over my head. I know very little about it. Though we have considered moving to Queen Anne. My husband says don’t move to Belltown. To each their own, of course, but I trust my husband - he’s lived here all his life. :smiley:

Er, house-wise. Apartment-wise, you’re probably fine. And it’s still no Mercer Island. :stuck_out_tongue: My brain ran off for a moment. I have to go catch it.

I simply have to giggle at people who are moving in from LA in November. Have you ever considered a land war in Asia?

Buy a sunlamp. Really. Everything else is trivial compared to that. But if you make it through those first 8 months, you should be fine.

Out of curiosity, did he say why not Belltown, because it is the only place I have heard of so far that people have been saying I should look into. (Actually I was told Belltown, Fremont, Capitol Hill but it was one of three) I was able to find out a bit about Belltown and Queen Anne, and have been spending the morning trying to find out about Fremont and Capitol Hill.

Fremont looks super cool, but there don’t seem to be many apt listings right now so I don’t know what they go for. Capitol hill has lots of listings but the range is huge (found a 2 bedroom for $875 and another for $1890) so that isn’t much help. There are clearly some subdistricts that I am unaware of.

Well before this gets too IMHOy I just want to say once again that I am very excited to be moving up there and am glad that so far the people seem friendly and welcoming. I am looking forward to November. :smiley:

I should preview more frequently. We actually picked November on purpose for just that reason, we figure we want to get the worst of the weather right up front so we know what we are dealing with. Then when the weather gets nicer it will be like a pleasant surprise. Also she is from Philly and Upstate New York so she knows from weather, its really me who is the clueless California dude.

Keep the advice, laughter, and derision coming!

He’s at work right now, but if I know my husband, it’s one or more of these three things:

  1. Too noisy
  2. Too many drug dealers
  3. Too many one-way/dead end streets/hard to navigate

As for Fremont, true enough, it’s tough to find a place often - they always get snatched up right away. It is mighty cool. Not to pimp Ballard out some more, but Ballard is right next to Fremont. I ride my bike into Fremont regularly, and I’m a chunky girl, I won’t ride too far. :wink: Just saying, if you can’t find a place in Fremont, being right next to the The Center of the Universe is a decent compromise. If you do manage to get into Fremont, say hi to Lenin for me!

[hijack]Can’t get into my account today at all, however, I got several gmail invites, so I’m setting up an account tonight (thanks all who sent them! I couldn’t open all of them because of the problems I’ve been having, but I did manage to open **Cowgirl Jules’ ** - yay!) so you’ll be getting an email from me soon. :cool: [/hijack]

I moved to Birch Bay in December (2003). It’s not so bad. (But then, I knew what to expect.)

Capitol Hill has nice parts and not so nice parts. That’s why the price rance is so wide. If the place is right along Broadway it’s likely to be not so nice although there are some very nice new condos at the end of Broadway. If you go a couple streets up the hill from Broadway you can find either cute little houses or very nice expensive looking houses. You can certainly find a decent 2-bedroom there within your stated budget.

Ah, Seattle. I miss it so. :frowning: Especially since North Carolina in August is one unremitting sauna bath.

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Belltown is right on the water, slightly north of true downtown. (On the map, it would be on the water directly below “Queen Anne”.) It’s part of downtown, and has all the associated problems: homeless people, some drug-dealing, no grass. The apartments are almost all new (Belltown is experiencing “urban renewal”, and there are lots of restaurants and clubs. If you want the true exciting urban lifestyle, Belltown is a good bet. It is not 100% safe after the bars close, and it can be noisy – basically, all the pros and cons of any “happening” city neighborhood.

Highway 99, also known as Aurora Avenue, runs north and south through Seattle (and as far south as Tacoma and as far north as Everett). At its best, it is strip malls and automobile dealerships; at its worst it is no-tell hotels and prostitution. Although there are really nice neighborhoods within 2 to 3 blocks of Aurora, I second the advice that you really don’t want to live right on it, or right next to it, if for no other reason than it’s a very busy street. On the map, 99/Aurora runs roughly just slightly to the left of “Freemont” and “Green Lake”. (It doesn’t run right through downtown, however; it bypasses it Freemont is very cool and very convenient to downtown, as Ballard is as well. Ballard is historically more working-class and Freemont more hippy, but property values have gone up so much that they are both basically new-urban-revival. Freemont clings to its hippy-ish past, but in a way I think is pretty self-conscious. Queen Anne is lovely – much more established and wealthier, more families, some good restuarants, lovely parks, but no clubs and not much nightlife. I lived on Queen Anne part of the time I was in Seattle and I really liked it a lot. Safe, pretty, leafy streets to walk my dogs, and a bus ride to downtown. You’ll see that the map says “Pacific University” – I’m not sure why, that’s not an area of town. Pacific University is actually in Oregon; this marks the location of Seattle Pacific University, which is on the north side of Queen Anne, near the Ship Canal. The north side of Queen Anne is not as desirable as the south side, which is closer to downtown, but you may find a decent apartment over there because there does tend to be some student-geared housing. Magnolia is west of Queen Anne, where Discovery Park is shown on the map. It’s a lot like Queen Anne, but further away from downtown and even quieter. Capitol Hill is the gay district – very cool, lots going on, but as you’ve discovered, a wide range in housing from absolute fleabag shitholes to multi-million dollar condos. To the extent Seattle can be said to have a “bad neighborhood,” the backside of Capitol Hill (the Lake Washington side) is edging into it.

As for sub-neighborhood: The University district (on the map, “University of Washington”) has some good values, again driven by the students. But just like all student-type housing, some of it is crap. The Woodland Park/Green Lake area is further away from downtown, but might be a good bet for a decent apartment at a decent price, and is still on the bus line. (Green Lake is a great place to go for a walk or run, BTW; it’s 3 miles once around and you can watch the crew teams practice.) Phinney Ridge is just north of Fremont and retains some of its funky feel. Ravenna is tucked between Green Lake and the U District and is very pretty but can be spendy. Madison Park is small, manicured, quiet and park-like, tucked in between the Arboretum and Lake Washington, but tends to be expensive. Alki is in West Seattle (the land directly below “Elliot Bay” on the map) and can have some good values, but commuting to downtown is a bitch.

And that’s worth mentioning: Commuting in Seattle is a bitch, period, unless you’re on a bus line. So you may want to know where you are thinking of working before you make a decision on housing. If you’re working downtown, public transportation is definitely the way to go; parking is hella-expensive (like around $250 a month, and no, that’s not a typo), so you’ll probably want to know where the nearest bus line is to your new apartment.

I hope you really enjoy Seattle; I absolutely love the city. Ride a ferry for me. :slight_smile: