I Am Somewhat Upset Over Two Things (Miss America related)

She’s HOT.

Of course, there are many millions of Indian women darker than all of the above…

You may have to do more than that refute the cites. I don’t know you. I don’t know if you know any Indians or are Indian. If you are then you know that all of those picture still fall on the fairer side of Indian complexions. I tend to believe those from Indian who say its true. Both in the article I cited above and this one that was imbedded in that article.

I am an Indian living in india, (born and brought up here).
I am not saying it doesnt happen. Like I said, Miss america(who is the subject of discussion) falls in same bracket as the gals I listed for most Indians. and so if they can become Miss India, Nina devuruli wouldnt have had to worry abt her skin color if she was in miss india contest.

Agreed.

But.

All the people who inevitably post defensively that “WE’RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT!” are just as attention-seeking as the haters. The difference is that they instead want to make sure that everyone looks at them and sees how NOT racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/etc (I’ll just spell out racist after this, since that’s the topic of the thread, but this applies to a wide variety of bigotry) they are. The end result is that yet again, the group that experiences racism is ignored or shouted down so white people can make the conversation all about them:

Do you think the report that every single contestant in the Miss India pageant used skin lightening products to no longer be true? The report seemed credible but it was from 10 years ago.

skin lightening products isnt specific to beauty pageants. people use it day-to-day.

You guys have obsession with tanning (tht some even get skin cancer), we have (I’d say to a lesser extent) obsession to be seen fairer.

Doesn’t mean that darker ladies are unacceptable, majority of Indians are brown(like Freida pinto) anyways.

When a white person talks about something that is being done/has been done to offend them and uses the words “black people,” why do you feel the need to say “Not all black people?” We know. Do you think we don’t know? Lets say you DO think we don’t know, now what? You’ve said that its not “all of you”. Okay but the experience the person had, the feelings the person is feeling, are they not valid now that you announced that not all black people do it?

Regards,
Shodan

Is anyone really surprised that Shodan and John Mace are making themselves out to be casually racist assholes?

Anyone?

Didn’t think so.

That’s really the problem with giving the super-racist any attention at all. It just lets people think “Ok, well, I’m not using slurs, so I can still make racist jokes and I’ll be ok! I’m not a racist, THOSE people are racist. I’m safe until I go join the KKK” when no, it doesn’t work like that. You’re not “satirizing” anything.

Is it wrong if I find some of those funny?

Miss 7-11. Lol

I’m surprised at John.

Yes that’s funny. Some are funny most are atrocious. Recently an american , Lauren gottlieb, nearly won an Indian celebrity dance show, nobody would have tweeted that he ain’t Indian or he doesn’t even speak Hindi even if she had won.

Vast majority of Americans are obviously fine but these tiny number some of whom are attention seeking trolls do spoil it somewhat…not for me, but for Indian-americans and all other Americans.

So was I.

Like, here.

'Course, John is no P.J. O’Rourke.

Here’s a segment from The Daily Show featuring Aasif Mandvi about the Miss America controversy. (Note that the video may be unavailable to those outside the US.)

By reflexively changing the topic of conversation to instances where you or some other self-satisfied, chortling, probably-mustachioed white male has personally been offended by black people, and then been meta-offended that other people pointed out the unnecessarily racially-tinged rhetoric you used to voice your complaints, so that you could be smugly triple-meta-offended about it, instead of either A) dealing with the actual topic at hand or B) just, like, shutting the fuck up for once, you certainly scored a proper burn on that blogger who said assholes like you like to make the conversation about yourselves, didn’t you?

Geez truthSeeker2, have you been loading up the spank bank or what?

Nah, I was making fun of the post.

Regards,
Shodan

Let’s switch the races to show those pesky minorities how racist they’re being. That’ll show 'em!

Not loading up at present, but some of these have already been in my spank bank from a long time .:smiley: