I could have beaten Trump, says Obama

I don’t know what else you’d call it. He didn’t win a majority of the popular vote.

There’s not really a word for “didn’t win a majority or plurality” that doesn’t include some form of “lose”. He lost the popular vote but won a majority of states and electoral college votes.

One might say that HRC was looking for love in all the wrong places.

Well,* you* might.

Nah, not me. “One” might, but not me.

Continue to drive home the point of what an Immature Arsewipe Trump is?

Isn’t that an end in and of itself?

And Obama’s comment is essentially saying that Clinton put too much faith in the intelligence and maturity of the American electorate - how incredibly foolish of her!

I have a family friend that recently suffered a stroke - he’s not allowed to cook because his memory isn’t what it should be and he might forget what he’s doing -
Would you think it’s better to stop him from cooking or to trust that he has the “maturity” not to cook?

Would you think it better better to take the keys from a recidivist drunk driver who is blotto or to trust that he will think better of his actions and not drive?

Should I help my slightly below average nephew navigate financial agreements or “trust” payday lenders, short term loan specialists and pawnshops not to take advantage of him?

Well, “smaller plurality” is like “more unique”- only one person can have the plurality of the votes, so that smaller as a modifier simply doesn’t make any sense. This is a matter of language, not politics.

I think the word you’re looking for is ‘minority’.

Does it bother anyone else that people (not just HurricaneDitka; I’ve heard the same thing from other people) think that Trump’s Twitter account should be suspended or deleted?

In less than a month, the man will have access to more direct means of communications, and will have authority over a vast federal bureaucracy, an enormous military and a massive nuclear arsenal, but can’t seem to manage a Twitter account responsibly and maturely. Doesn’t that bother you?

Seems to me most people can’t manage a Twitter account responsibly and maturely, it’s probably the most inane and superficial form of communication yet invented. I do wish Trump would stop using it but in doing so he’s simply acting as the majority of his countrymen.

But most people’s Twitter feeds aren’t immediately picked up by every major newspaper and media source in the world. Isn’t he supposed to be more mature and responsible than the majority of his countrymen? Shouldn’t he recognize the influence he has as president-elect?

You can’t tell me that if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton were as Twitter-obsessed that Republicans wouldn’t be all over the immaturity of it.

I’d like to see his access to those modes of communication and channels of authority removed, too. But I’m not holding my breath for it.

How would Democrats have reacted if Dubya had felt the need, in December of '08, to announce to everybody that he totally would’ve beaten that Obama fella at the polls? Would they have been ‘all over the immaturity of it’? Would they have insulted him? Laughed at him? Called him a racist?

If Dubya had actually said that, yes, it would have been immature. What Obama actually said was quite a bit more measured.

The difference, and I think it’s an important one, is that if Trump tries to use the more direct means of communications, enormous military, or massive nuclear arsenal on a whim, he’s going to have other people tell him if they think it’s a bad idea. With Twitter, he can quickly blast out whatever thought enters his head, day or night, without anyone else knowing about it before he hits the send button. Like aldiboronti said, it’s an extremely inane and superficial method of communication.

Still, does it not bother you that the president-elect of the United States uses such an inane and superficial method of communication?

Plus it doesn’t have to be an inane and superficial method of communication. Look, for instance, how President Obama uses the @POTUS account. It’s much more responsible and serves his agenda in a more mature manner.

Yes, absolutely (it does bother me).

Hillary came nowhere remotely near that. She didn’t even get a majority of voters, only around 48%, and only around 60% of voters showed up. When you look at eligible American voters, there are 231,556,622, while Hillary got 65,844,610 votes, so she managed to mobilize just 28% of the American people who could vote to vote for her. That’s not a majority, and she is actually a historically unpopular candidate, no matter how much Democrats are pushing the myth that she was actually extremely popular.

Pointing out that she didn’t even get 1/3 of American voters to vote for her, well short of a majority, isn’t just pointless nitpicking. Democrats were saying the same thing about Gore’s loss to Bush back in 2000, and keeping alive the myth that they were the “Real” choice of the American people and didn’t need to contemplate doing anything different.

I believe Obama is just looking for a little attention. Anything at all will do. It seems that many of the media news outlets, and many on the internet are acting as if Trump is already the POTUS. Out with the old, in with the new. Bring out your dead even if they’re still breathing. Poor, lonesome, lonely Obama. Hey - Axlerod! You owe me something for making you famous. How about interviewing me? People still listen to your stuff, don’t they?

OTOH, Hillary had her chance. The election was hers to lose and she lost it. Obama’s track record of getting other Democrats elected isn’t very good, but he did try. Hillary is a big girl who has been in politics for a really, really, really long time. I’m sure she is aware that people will occasionally stop by to piss on her grave. It’s a part of the what-have-you-done-for-me-today nature of political life.

To the end of obstructing and defeating Trump’s policies and agenda. The POTUS is not the absolute ruler of the country. Even with a Republican House and Senate, keep in mind that 3 million more Americans voted for Clinton than Trump. He still has to deal with State and possibly local governments in the case of large metropolitan areas like New York or San Francisco. Plus you have mid-term elections in 2018 and a lot of those Republicans will want to keep their jobs.