I’d be less “picky” and “unbelieving” if you weren’t being so evasive.
If she had tried to do so previously, it shows it was more than simply “just stopping.”
Why do I need to explain them? My position is that generally speaking, quitting smoking is more than a matter of “just stopping.” There may be a few exceptions to this generalization.
I will note, however, that a lot of self-proclaimed “recreational smokers” are lying to themselves and others about the extent to which they are hooked on smoking.
I’m not sure what you mean by people who “CAN control themselves,” but I will assume you mean people for whom quitting smoking is simply a matter of stopping smoking. And for whom losing weight is simply a matter of eating less.
I agree that such people exist and have never said otherwise. It does not contradict my basic point.
The destructive lie here is that quitting smoking or losing weight is a simple matter like unplugging a hair dryer – it’s not. It requires a lot of mental effort and usually entails a decent number of failed attempts.
Excuse me? What interpretation of “just” wouldn’t fit here: * only, merely, simply, precisely*??
Like I said, it’s what’s required for some to quit that gets so tricky. But quitting itself is a very simple act.
Who the fuck is being “evasive”? I’ve been about as clear as I can be about the whole grandma smoking/quiting thing without submiting security camera footage from the TARDIS as it swung past my grandmother every week for decades on end.
If you don’t want to believe me or some other folks stories here and it soothes your sad sorry soul have at it.
Those things you give as counter-examples are activities that require innate talent necessary in order to succeed (other than simple luck with the stock market, but that’s quite unlikely). Cessation of smoking is simply that, cessation. It is not an activity; it is the lack of an activity. No one needs an innate talent in order not to smoke.
We’re talking about your use of the word “just” (and also your use of the word “simple”)
Here’s what you said earlier:
Well, it’s what’s required to determined what stock prices are low or high that gets so tricky. But actually buying and selling the stocks is a very simple act.
Lol, I can imagine you giving a lecture to a bunch of addiction researchers. And telling them that getting off drugs can be very simply accomplished by just tapering off and then ceasing drug use. Surely they will all nod their heads in appreciation of your stunning insight.
Explain it in detail because apparently I am stupid.
I want a detailed explaination of how I have been “evasive”. Of course between the times you are puffing away or shoving another jelly doughnut down your pie hole.
Exactly, because you can literally avoid cigarettes, but you can’t avoid food.
Put another way, how many true alcoholics and 2-pack a day smokers (what I’m likening obese people to) could cut back to say… 1 drink a day, or 3 smokes a day and keep that up over the span of 9 months to a year? No more, no less- they can’t just stop, and they are strongly encouraged to stick to 1 drink/3 smokes.
I’ll wager almost none could manage that. Yet in effect, that’s what the diet and exercise bunch is advocating, with much the same success rates that I think you’d see with treating other addictions in a similar fashion.
You know, both sides of this side debate (ETA: brazil v. billfish and ambivalid on quitting smoking) have a point, and at the same time both sides are being stupid as hell. You are just talking past each other at ever-increasing volume.
No offense NeedsCoffee and Olivemarchthe4th, but even when I do watch my caloric intake, I don’t lose a lot of weight. I’ve tried that and honestly, it just DOES NOT work for me.
There’s more I could say, but I’m not in the mood for an argument over how we’re on a pretty tight budget and how the crap food is more in line with what we can afford than the good for you food.
My father, yes. That’s always been his story. Some people just have an “on-off” switch like that. My mother, I would have to ask. Dude, people are different.
Is it supposed to be some pathetic attempt at bullying?
I know your brain cells have had some arguments with each other which explains why they no longer speak to each other, but as I have said before when you’ve previously offered that idiotic comment up, I am short, bald, and funny looking, but not fat. Because it was pertinent to this discussion I have actually already mentioned that my body happens to defend strongly at around 150 pounds, which is a BMI of 24.6. More importantly, overall I am quite satisfied with my fitness level: I eat a healthy diet in moderation; I exercise regularly (running, biking, jumping rope, rowing, all often with pretty high intensity, swimming but not too well, doing calisthenics, lifting weights a few times a week with undulating periodicity, using the balance disc with weights as well every so often, working on my planche progression … so on).
Most who are not overweight, obese, or severely obese also do not have six packs. But yes those who are overweight to severely obese themselves and lecture to others about how simple it is to become not fat are hypocrites. Is that you? I have not paid close enough attention to know.
Excuse me? What interpretation of “just” wouldn’t fit here: * only, merely, simply, precisely*??
