I mean it kinda makes sense. If they didn’t have the policy on the button presser wins, there’s possible issues with underage people paying other people to play for them. Yeah, it’s far fetched I know. But I work in a casino and there’s certain slot machines we, as employees, are NOT allowed to play. If they see us standing near one as a friend plays, or god forbid, hand money to a friend or relative to play the game and they go to one of the ‘restricted’ slots, we’re out of a job and if the other person DID win with our money, we’d be out a job and the jackpot.
Still, that was a shitty thing for the friend to do but I’m sure we don’t have the whole story.
Interesting. I guess they had to make a rule of some kind, in order to decide who gets what. When large sums of money are “won,” it’s pretty common for anyone who thinks they deserve a share, to get hostile. So this place decided that the one pulling the lever or pushing the button gets the full amount. They could have chosen the person who puts the money in the slot, but they didn’t.
As far as implied contracts go, they can be tricky. Certainly you should never GUESS what your implied contract is.
After all, the woman who took off with all the money thought there was an implied contract that said she got to keep it all.
I’ve been there enough and know the crowd enough to suspect that she knew the rule well and was in the act of capitalizing on her chances to capitalize on that rule.
Ace - let’s say we are at a blackjack table. I place $5 in front of you to make a bet. You play the hand, and win. Are you suggesting that the dealer gives the winnings to me?
No need to have a signature to have a valid contract. Generally the required elements are an offer, acceptance of the offer, consideration (a payment or exchange), and mutual intent to create a binding agreement. But writing it down is usually a good idea.
Bets are not usually considered contracts under common law. And such things are generally handled by regulatory frameworks in jurisdictions where gambling is legal. Sometimes those regulatory frameworks give casinos quite a lot of latitude in setting their own rules about how games will work and how prizes are awarded.
Be that as it may, if the only reason you are playing a hand is that someone gave you the money to do so, which player wins the money: the donor of the $25 or the player with the cards?
I agree that every time a gambler wins some money, it isn’t the casino’s responsibility to try and track down whether a third party gave the money to the gambler and thus is the “true” owner of the winnings.
Agree. This is how we all get coffee from Starbucks, or gas from the gas station. Nothing is written down, yet valid contracts are created in our purchase of coffee or gas, as friedo points out.
Agree, but sometimes such things are unwieldy or unnecessary. Buying coffee at Starbucks creates a valid contract, with all necessary elements of contract, but there is no need to write it down. On the other hand, “writing it down” works for real estate, cars, and large appliance purchases. Indeed, under the Statute of Frauds (29 Car 2 c 3) (1677); adopted, in various forms, by all common-law countries and their subdivisions, some things must be written down.
Agree. This is how we all get coffee from Starbucks, or gas from the gas station. Nothing is written down, yet valid contracts are created in our our purchase of coffee or gas, as friedo points out.
Agree, but sometimes such things are unwieldy or unnecessary. Buying coffee at Starbucks creates a valid contract, with all necessary elements of contract, but there is no need to write it down. On the other hand, “writing it down” works for real estate, cars, and large appliance purchases. Indeed, under the Statute of Frauds (29 Car 2 c 3) (1677); adopted, in various forms, by all common-law countries and their subdivisions, some things must be written down.
So according to her it was her own money anyway. She just used his casino customer loyalty card for the transaction.
Bottom line - her money at stake, her winnings.
When a jackpot is hit and the bells and whistles are going off on the casino floor, a serious investigation of the facts is going on in the security room while the player waits for their money. They send someone out to get the players ID, review security cameras and game logs and make sure everything is in perfect order before paying the winnings.
Lots of things could disqualify the winner including being under age, or banned from the casino, or under legal orders not to gamble, etc. so they aren’t going to allow one person to play the game and a different person to stand in for them in all these security checks.
Besides any casino rules if a taxable payout is hit “seat switching” to let someone else collect the winnings is a federal crime. It doesn’t matter who puts up the money, the person who wins the game is the one responsible for the taxes.
I’ve never seen this done when I’ve been playing, so does the person have to put the chips in a special spot? Like on the betting circle line or something? I know when I make a bet for the dealer, if I don’t put it in a separate area, and just keep the bet in my circle, I don’t have to give it to the dealer if I don’t want if I win.
It’s known as “playing behind” - basically you put your bet behind the controlling player’s bet in order to bet on their hand. It’s polite to ask them first. IME it’s a lot more common in Asian casinos; elderly Chinese ladies seem to think Americans are lucky.