I don't want to marry you, I just want a page made

unclviny, from what you describe, you dont want a web designer, you want a web developer.

If your site was pretty much static html pages with little functionality, you would be best served using a web designer, who could contract out any functionality to a developer. But with the amount of functionality you listed, you should do it the other way around: get a web developer who will contract out the graphic design to someone else. If youve been talking to people who give you the “Im an Artist” line of BS, youve been talking to the wrong people for the amount of functionality you want.

With that amount of functionality, you should be talking to and dealing with the person/people who will be writing code, not the person/people who will be making the images. Web site makers roughly fall into two groups; those run by developers who hire/delegate to graphic artists, and those run by graphic artists who hire/delegate to developers. Very very rarely will you find people who excell at both; so rarely its not worth spending the time trying to find one.

As for the relationship thing, they are going to push that because, well, its easy money. That, and for what youre asking for, its obvious that updates or at least a certain amount of maintenance is going to be needed.

You are correct though; its very possible to write code in such a way that pretty much any future developer should be able to go in, figure out how its set up and do any tasks that need be done. In other words, you should be able to have someone do a one-off for a lump sum and throw the maintenance work to any decent developer you can find when you need it done.

But in the real world Web site builders, especially the smaller ones, can be just as untrustworthy as, say, car mechanics. In fact, I suggest you approach the whole thing just exactly as you would getting your car fixed. Shop around, get quotes, ask around about reputation, very very explicit contracts as to what will be done vs what wont, etc. I will say that if a web builder wont agree to work with you ~without~ a relationship, dont let the door hit them in the ass.

Oh, and the poster who said about 3-5k is what to expect to pay is pretty much right; you could probably get lower by going to a one person shop though, which might be one thing to consider: get the code of the site built first, get the functionality working how you want, which should be very doable by a one-developer shop. Then find a graphic artist to deal with the look and feel part of it.

I think that you are right, I contacted a buddy who is some kind of “network guy” (he has alphabet soup after his name on his cards) and he said that he thinks I need a database driven site with 2 interfaces (1 for me and 1 for the customers) and that he would put me in touch with a contact of his, I already have an artist doing logo’s and stuff so what I have been looking for is more of a “coder” than a “graphics guy” and I think this has been a major source of frustration for me.

I am convinced that I have to be able to update this site myself (as far as adding photo’s and adjusting prices), but bear in mind that this “interweb” stuff is virtually unknown to me.

The “look” of the site is going to be pretty basic (think late 1950’s British diner/coffee shop) but I hired the artist because really “bitchin’” logo’s sell well.

Unclviny

Just a little advice. Make it clear who owns the rights to what, for both the programming part and for the artistic part; for the programming part, make it clear if the developer is responsible for modifications, updates and debugging.

One of my previous employers found himself in trouble when he found out that he didn’t own the code of the cutomized site he paid for, so he was stuck with outrageous prices every time there was some feature to add or change… or even debug. This web developer charged an attractive price in the beginning and then walloped us hard when modifications were needed. And we couldn’t go to someone else because we didn’t own the code.

It would have been better to start with something out-of-the-box and modify that. But did the boss listen? Nooooo…

Just his name sends shivers though plain text on a smart board. The written word is no more than scribed with true viction. Hi Jon!

Not interested in the gov’t reaping on my emotions in getting married.