Freedom!
Omnibus bill approved 144-109, however it still hasn’t passed the chamber of representatives, now they are going to vote on each article, it seems (I confess I don’t understand these parliamentary procedures, what if the law is approved “in general” but then each article is rejected?, does it work that way or something like this in the U.S.?).
Let’s hope some of the more loathsome articles are rejected or modified into something more tolerable.
In the US generally a law that passes one chamber and passes to the next might be changed before they vote on it, and things may be added or removed. When the president signs it, he has to sign all of it or veto it. That’s a way that a “rider” can be added to a bill before it becomes a law, so that, say, approving a law to increase funding for education might also have a completely unrelated rule about transportation. It’s a technique to get something in that on its own might not have a chance of passing.
Think of it like a parent sneaking vegetables into a kid’s dinner that the kid might not even know is there, or at least doesn’t taste it because they like the rest of the food so much.
There is a concept in US law called a “line item veto” which would allow the president to sign a law but remove certain things from it when doing so. It has been attempted many times and it was briefly allowed while Bill Clinton was president until the Supreme Court called it unconstitutional and struck it down. The legislature is supposed to have the sole ability to shape laws and the executive branch (including the president) is only supposed to make sure the laws that the legislature creates are enforced, and line item vetoes are generally considered to be overstepping what the executive is supposed to do.
So yeah, to an extent what you describe is how it works in the US a lot of the time also.
Just by way of comparison, in Canadian parliamentary practice, 2nd reading is the vote in principle on the bill, and it then goes to committee, which can examine the bill clause-by-clause, and amend individual clauses, or even remove a clause.
From your description and the news articles I’ve read, it sounds like a similar process for this bill (but as always, I’m cautious about trying to draw close comparisons between the parliamentary practice in different countries).
It works like that here too, what puzzes me is that this particular bill hasn’t passed yet but they are going to modify it.
Apparently today’s vote means that the bill is approved “in general” and usually after that there is a pro-forma vote to confirm all its articles.
But in this case there is not going to happen that way (too many horrible things inside may be) and at least some articles are going to be debated “in particular”.
Afterwards is going to go to the Senate where there is a small hope of rejecting it, or at least modifying it again and sending it back to the other chamber.
Hopefully the nerves of the idiot in the pink house will fail if the process starts to take too long and he’ll do something stupid that sinks the bill completely (one can always hope)
Looks like that’s it, the law has been approved “in general” and now needs to be checked “in particular”
In the US, the upper and lower houses typically work on bills separately. If they each end up passing different versions of the same legislation, it will go to a conference committee made up of members of the House and the Senate. They’ll hammer out their differences and then both chambers vote again. If it passes both of them, it goes to the President to be either signed, vetoed, or in unusual cases, allowed to die by “pocket veto”, in this case, Congress has adjourned already but the President hasn’t signed yet. If he just ignores it, it does.
It’s more sequential here normally, it think, one chamber sends it to the other, the other approves it, or rejects it, or makes some changes and then sends it back for those changes to be approved.
Once both chambers approve the same bill, it becomes law (unless vetoed).
I don’t think we ever had a “pocket veto” situation, but may be it can happen. (not in this case of course)
THE BILL IS DOWN, I REPEAT THE BILL IS DOWN!
It seems like the complete legislative incompetence of the government made them advance with the law even when they didn’t have the votes for the articles they most wanted, so today, since they they couldn’t pass those articles, the law has been sent back to committee (so back to step one, needs to be voted again).
They are probably going to try again but this is the first “good” thing to happen since november 19.
There are rumours that they didn’t know that sending the law back to committee voided everything… 
We had a saying in the US military:
I’d rather be lucky than skillful any day.
Seems your legislators are unskilled but lucky.
Except the lucky ones are against the law and the unskilled ones are for it, I can only imagine the effort it must’ve taken them to contain their laughter when these geniuses made their move.
May I say, if the following is proven correct:
That this is a moment where the Argentinian fascists were just having a “hold my beer” moment after the US House of Representatives attempted to impeach Mayorkas without having laid in the votes to do so.
While I want to celebrate, it reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite shows, Invader Zim. Our evil protagonist, the alien Invader Zim, is attempting to take over the world. His foil, Dib, keeps trying to stop him, with various degrees of success, but Zim will ofter foil himself. When Dib rails against his sister Gaz for not caring about Zim’s efforts to conquer the world, he response is “But he’s so -bad- at it.”
We all then laugh, because it’s true. But there and here IRL, it’s a laugh with a desperate edge. Because for all the laughs, they are going to keep trying. And even if they suck at it, or screw it up by the numbers, if they get lucky, or aren’t stopped, or people are just complacent enough, they -can- win, with horrible consequences for the rest of us.
Whether Americans like myself, @Frodo’s countrypersons, or even the hapless citizens of Zim’s Earth.
I was thinking on the same (parallel?) lines when I heard about the failed impeachment, fascist rhyming.
That’s very true, but for now we are enjoying some much needed relief, we’ll keep fighting tomorrow don’t you doubt it.
(and in the meantime these incompetent buffoons are being roasted within an inch of their lives in social media, and you don’t know what roasting is until you’ve been roasted by argentinians believe me)
I bow to your superior knowledge for fear that you would roast me, causing me to hang my head in well earned shame! And you’re absolutely right, we can bask in the joys of their failures. While it’s not my religion:
I’m not very good at it sadly, nor at football or making asado (hangs head in shame)
Milei has taken the defeat with his usual equanimity…
Apparently this was his idea all along, in order to show who the “enemies” where…
At the same time anybody who voted against the main articles of the law is a “beast” a “traitor” and it’s “against the nation”, and he’s twitted a list of each and everyone of them.
Wow. He and Trump really are cut from the same cloth.
Milei’s cloned his dog, may be he himself is but a stunted, less orange, less fat clone of Trump…
This is off topic, but are you guys like, world leaders in cloning or something?
I remember hearing something about an Argentinian guy with a polo team where all the horses are clones of this amazing star horse that died ages ago.