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@Dr_Paprika Please provide translation for non-English. Please don’t do this again.
Sorry. These are the opening lines to the Argentine tango “Volver” (Return), which I am guessing might be well known to Frodo. It’s kind of a nostalgic song about the return of an unpleasant past after one has grown older, and naively I thought it might parallel current events.
A translation:
I can almost see the flicker
Of the lights that in the distance
Mark the way of my returning…
They’re the very ones that lit up,
Their reflections pale and misted,
Many hours of deep pain.
Y aunque no quise el regreso
Siempre se vuelve al primer amor
La vieja calle donde me cobijo
Tuya es su vida, tuyo es su querer
And even when I didn’t want to go back
you always come back to your first love
The old street where I take refuge
Yours is her life, yours is her love.
But the most important part I think, is the one that goes:
Volver
Con la frente marchita
Las nieves del tiempo platearon mi sien
Sentir
Que es un soplo la vida
Que veinte años no es nada
Going back
With a somber brow
The snows of time silvered my temple
To feel
That life’s a breeze
that 20 years is nothing.
more like 25 years in this case but we are certainly going back to those times.
If history repeats (shudder) we’ll have 10 years of stability with extreme unemployment and poverty “the peace of the graveyard” and then an explosion when society reaches its breaking point.
Except in the 90’s there were a lot of state enterprises to sell for the money needed to at least pretend that things were working, that’s not the case now.
They are talking about selling the rights of way of the 10% of the rail network that survived the 90’s 
You are truly a man of culture @Dr_Paprika 
Tangos are no longer popular here, my generation considered it old people’s music, my son’s generation doesn’t really consider them at all.
However, if you say “Volver con la frente marchita” (“To come back with a somber brow” is the best translation I can manage) it still resonates with people, some will say it without knowing it’s origin, uknowingly quoting a 90 year old song.
Same with “20 years is nothing” and “Life’s a breeze”.
More Milei, and his mixed January reception in Davos. (Gift link below from New York Times). Nothing new, but different from The Economist.
RIP Carem, hello banana republic status 
They only need about 10 million dollars to finish it but there’s no hope with these orangutans in the government, they are going to cancel it.
Remember this part of my OP?
As of this day our public universities have enough budget to remain open, with luck, until June.
The government has answered criticism about this by:
a) Accusing the universities of corruption
b) Accusing the universities of “indoctrination” (looks familiar?)
c) Proposing charging foreign students (see my quote).
The fact remains that the current budget is grossly insufficient, the universities are audited every year and no corruption has been found and the number of foreign students is just 4% of all students.
So, yet again, we march. University students are marching today, labor unions are supporting them as are all who care about higher education.
Our charming Security Minister Patricia Bulshit… err Patricia Bullrich is yet again threatening to apply her vaunted protocol against impeding circulation, probably with the same results as in the previous marches (IE: None, when you have tens of thousands marching on the streets you cannot stop them unless you are prepared to trigger 2001 levels of violence),
The demonstration starts about 3 pm, I came to the office in downtown B.A. today and plan to leave at 2, go to the march and come back a few hours later.
Good luck and well done!
I’m back at home, the threats of P. Bullrich proved empty again, no attempts were made to enforce her beloved protocol.
Then again, there was a bit too many people to try something like that…
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I don’t know yet the estimated number of people but, in the ground, it felt like more people than on March 24th or January 24th.
I think they’ve made a mistake attacking one of the pillars of the argentinian middle class.
Some pictures and videos I took:
This was the train station where I met a friend to go together. (Old hands recommend never going alone to this kind of thing)
Tried to take a lateral street to move faster but…
Hello congress, we are back (again)
This picture can be a postcard of Argentina, beautiful buildings (Congress on the left, the “El Molino” confectionery (more like a coffee shop) on the right), people fighting for their rights in the front.
“Exactas” is the Exact Sciences Faculty.
From congress we marched to the Pink House and the Plaza de Mayo, my friend and I took a little detour to eat some hot dogs, I took the chance to take this picture:
In the back you can see Eva Peron’s silhouette on the ministry of communications’ building, they haven’t dared to remove it yet.
This was as close as I got this time to the Plaza, the streets were completely blocked by thousands of people:
We’ll see how the administration reacts to this, the problem remains that without additional funding universities cannot remain open past June, if they do nothing… we’ll have to march again I guess, may be stay there for days? I dunno.
Finally I took this photo just to show off, this a by no means atypical building in Buenos Aires, mine is a beautiful city!
I hope you preserve not only the buildings, but the people and their future.
Yes, I know that’s exactly what you’re doing, with a minor brag, but want to focus on you guys protecting yourselves as well!
Fight the good fight, amigüito.
Only the smallest and most depressing tidbits about the goings on in Argentina, make the news here.
Thanks so much for making and keeping this thread alive. I am very grateful for your informative and insightful views. Am following closely.
It looks like in Buenos Aires alone we were about half a million people, more than a million counting the rest of the country.
Cordoba, one of the older cities in the country, proudly boasting the oldest university in the country, (Founded in 1613 by the Jesuits) had more than 100.000 protesters, which is astonishing considering:
- Cordoba’s populations is much MUCH smaller than Buenos Aires.
- Milei won the election there by large margins.
Let’s hope it’s a sign of things to come.
“You know me Marge, I like my Fernet cold, my public transport accessible and my universities public public!”
Now Milei is tweeting that he’s going to “guarantee funding” to the universities and “Audit how that money is used” (as long as the money is there nobody cares, universities are already audited).
Have we won (on this front at least)? stay tuned.
Glad that you got a huge turnout.
Also glad that Discourse has finally allowed me to post in this thread again. (If it has.)[ETA: aha! it worked!] As well as to read it properly without multiple portions of the page sitting on top of each other. The problem’s intermittent; but it seems to like this thread (and a few others.)
Strange, may be it’s related to the images and videos?
I don’t think so; it doesn’t appear consistently in threads with images and videos, or I think only in those threads, though it’s pretty erratic and I’m not sure about the latter. I reported it quite a while ago when it was occuring in a different thread, but nobody seemed to have any idea. I might bump that thread again one of these days.
Now what I’m starting to worry about is Milei doesn’t seem the most stable of geniuses as it were (bleeding sarcasm in case it isn’t clear).
He’s forced through more than @frodo and anyone putting Argentina’s people first would like, but from his POV, it sounds like he’s not seeing many wins.
So, do we think he’ll start down the path of whine rather than win (“I’d have fixed it all if you people hadn’t screwed it all up, you don’t deserve me!”) or the path of destruction (either burn it all down out of spite, or try for more violent controls).
Or a la Trump, the second (poorly) followed by the first. Although with Trump, we’re in the middle of the sequel, so it’s never finished with those sort.
Hey, you guys made the BBC’s front page: