Just how often has a party not picked the incumbent- when the incumbent wanted to you?
Has an incumbent president ever lost to a primary challenger?
An incumbent hasn’t lost their party’s nomination in modern U.S. history
One of the DNCs most important jobs is to look over not well publicized or funded down ballot races and figure out that a few tens of thousands $ might win the race for the Dems. Good new/bad news- the RNC is now just a tool of trump and will pay his bills- which means no one will handle that critical job for the GOP.
Who have 4 and 3 votes each, and are thus insignificant. CA has 54 votes.
Traditionally, an incumbent President gets to name the Chairman of the DNC/RNC – Biden named Jaime Harrison DNC chair shortly after taking office. While it’s not quire correct to say that the DNC “works” for Biden, there is little daylight between his campaign and the DNC.
For instance, Obama only beat Romney by four states in 2012. Had ~263,900 voters flipped in Florida, Virginia, Ohio, and Colorado, Mitt Romney would’ve been President.
EDIT: Obama’s 2012 election can also be reckoned as a three-state victory by swapping out Colorado + Virginia and swapping In Pennsylvania. That brings it up to about 275,000 turned voters, though.
There is no DNC strategy, at least not outside the Biden campaign. The DNC is the Biden campaign, just as it was the Obama campaign when Obama was president. There’s no doubt that Biden/DNC wanted an easy primary for Biden, but they didn’t and couldn’t stop anyone else from running. I have little doubt that Gavin Newsom, and likely many other Democrats, would have run of they truly thought they could win the nomination and the general election. There’s nothing the Biden campaign or the DNC could have done to stop them. They chose not to run because they didn’t think they could win the nomination and presidency.
OK, but other than nominating Biden, I’d still like to hear what you (or other Reddit posters) think the Dems are doing that makes you think they’re coasting on 2020 strategies, and/or what they should be doing differently that would reflect recognition of 2020 as a near-disaster.
Thanks for the correction - now I’m trying to remember where the 16k number (in my head) comes from - perhaps it was one of the states the third party was challenging?
It is also not a swing state of the United States of America.
While, yes, we were talking the ECS, we were specifically discussing the question of whether it is more important to look at the EC points or the vote tally. Which question followed from the original question, asking how best to declare something “close” or “landslide”.
I proposed that the best way is to look at the vote percentage that would need to change in the swing states. You said that the vote percentage doesn’t matter because once you win one state, you get all of its points (which implied, on your part, that we were already in agreement that for the swing states, the points all go one way or the other). And then I pointed out that this was as unreasonable a way to look at it as presuming there to be only one massive state, that you win it by a single vote, but call it a “landslide” because, of course, 100% of the points went to the victor.
I wouldn’t call this a general, all-purpose discussion of the EC itself and all of its nuances unless you want to present some argument that the original proposal - to focus on the swing states - isn’t valid. At the moment, you haven’t done that.
I don’t need to abide by your decision to look at it a certain way. The OP said it was a razor-thin margin, which isn’t true by the popular vote or the EC vote.
But sure, if things had been different, then things would be different. You win!
No, but if you haven’t contested something then I have no particular way to read your mind to know that you’ve discounted it in some way. I’m fine with addressing your position, whatever it may be, but if you can’t remember what has and hasn’t been discussed or what the general history of the discussion was, I don’t know that the fault lies on me for that. I can only proceed from what you’ve actually communicated.
And he said it was razor thin by a similar method as I described, and you haven’t really been able to offer a rebuttal for it, nor a reason to prefer your options.
True, but some of that 74-vote margin came from states that Biden won by less than a couple of stadiumfuls of people, illustrating how the EC outcome often exaggerates the amount by which the winner has won in the battleground states.
Because our votes don’t all count the same. If they did, I don’t think Biden could lose even now.
