You wanna bet on that matey?.
There is Hale, Cheshire, part of Greater Manchester and there is Hale, Halton, Nr. Liverpool, Lancs.
I pay my CT to Trafford
Rayne Man is thinking of Bowdon, many WAGS live there
There’s Hale, Manchester. Nowhere is both Cheshire and Greater Manchester. They moved the county boundary a quarter of a century ago - do keep up, old boy. (Trust me, I can keep this wind-up going all day, both because I know I’m right and because I had a girlfriend who lived in Sale. And yes, we are no longer together…)
I know they moved the boundary but I still spell shit with a “C” and live in Cheshire.
Sale is not so distant from me. Did you ever go in The Bulls Head or The Vine Tavern?
BTW, Sale is also in Cheshire
"Descended from cowards, Frank nobly rises above his alarmist geneaology to become a force to be reconed with on The Straight Dope. "
Are you saying your family is full of illegal immigrants? Why, you’ve got both history and timliness on your side.
( I jest. My family fled the Nazis. See? We all run away from something. Or, towards something. )
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Why, thank you. I will have to try those Jaffa cakes – which, frankly, I had never even heard of until this thread.
Jaffa cakes, the single finest cake-biscuit hybrid known to man.
I’d never heard the term before, and I had no idea that’s what they are. I would describe those as a kind of extremely yummy cookie; I’m sure I’ve had them here.
Bake your own <Youtube, safe for work, may contain Gordon Ramsey> 
Nope-they’ve got filling. I don’t DO filling.
What are fairy cakes? PD James is always having people eat them. Are they cupcakes? I know what fairy lights are (and fairies… 
).
Frank–no need to be ashamed of that background. We all have to overcome some obstacle or other.* 
Chesire, eh? Like the cat? Wasn’t there a Duke of Sale who was a bit barmy? Maybe not.
I can’t imagine redrawn counties–and in England of all places! This is a place that still weighs its people in stones. You’d think that hidebound tradition would take precendent. It would be like us moving our counties around, or our state lines…
I like the idea of war with tea breaks and cakes. I also like scones (and make a mean Sultana scone meself). drat-now I’m hungry.
*just kidding. Don’t ban me, please don’t ban me <cringes>
Yes, fairy cakes are just like cup-cakes. But according to Wikipedia it’s also the name of a poisonous mushroom (Hebeloma crustuliniforme) . So be careful what you order.
Yeah, my sixth birthday party was absolute carnage. I had to write 14 apology letters to parents!
And I just realized that when I’m tired, I can’t type for beans. Precedent, not precendent, for example.
The Kings Ransom is the only one I’ve been in.
Ah, well we do still cling on to historical counties to keep the stick-in-the-muds happy (who on earth could I be talking about? 
). Some of them have different borders from the administrative areas, while others such as Middlesex no longer exist in any other form.
Sometimes changes to boundaries does cause controversy, particularly where local identity is strong, such as on the Lancashire/Yorkshire border.
Yes, but why the need to change? Don’t tell me the post office–your post used to deliver twice a day under the old system. UK hasn’t gotten any larger in terms of geography…so what is the reasonn for the change?
Thanks for the hocky info. I like hockey (field) (Hockey without a quaifier here means ice hockey which I dislike).
Ah The Kings Ransom on Britannia Street overlooking the canal.
A very good choice of watering hole if I may so so. Excellent food and a pint of Ruddles is just one of the fine ales available there.
Actually the pub is a fairly new one altho’ it looks a lot older so you must have been in my neck of the woods fairly recently, I’m surprised they let you in as the landlord operates a very strict dress code 
A pleasure. Ask me about cricket any time you want to be told More Than You Wanted To Know.
The structure of local government which was set up along historic boundaries didn’t correspond to 20th century urban development, which meant that some cities were administered by several county councils, for example. Wikipedia link, if you really want to go into it!
As a specific example, which chowder can’t accept , is that it no longer made sense for Hale to be administered as an urban district within Cheshire, when in terms of population, economy and infrastructure it had become part of Manchester. So in 1974 it became part of the newly-created metropolitan borough of Trafford, along with other parts of Cheshire and Lancashire.
Up until five years ago. And yeah, we weren’t your average students 
Look you!!
I live in Cheshire, I refuse to accept the amalgamation, the pissing about with our culteral heritage,the faggotty behaviour of faceless pen pushers who have sod all else to do apart from try to get us posh people to lower ourselves.
So there, just cut it out or I’ll have to send the “boys” to Ipswich to have you sorted out
Sorry, my mistake. Thought you were a City man.
Exactly my point, it’s “That other lot” who are the peasants.
Plus people from Ipswich o’ course