I had to send my intern home today

…because it was the third time I’ve caught him sleeping on the job this semester.

I’m just so frustrated with him. This is his third semester with us, and he did good work the last two semesters. In fact, we were thinking of going through the trouble of sponsoring his visa* (assuming it’s possible) if he had another good semester. Instead he’s done nothing but be a complete fuck-up.

He gets stuck, and instead of asking a question decides it’s time to surf the web for the rest of the day. I can’t count the number of times I’ve come to his cube to ask what’s going on, and have him jump and close the internet browser. Then I ask where he is, he mentioned he got stuck, and I solve his problem in under 5 minutes so he can get back to work. I’ve mentioned over and over that if he runs into trouble, he should ask for help, but instead he just goofs off. I’m ok with checking your email or the news or whatever (hell, I’m on the dope now), but it’s not ok to spend hours browsing the web when you have work you’re behind on.

He’s apparently forgotten basic parts of the job, including things he did last semester. For example, his degree is computer science and he’s specializing in databases. He’s taken all of his specialization courses. He needed me to explain how to run an update query in SQL.**

He’s taking extraordinarily long for any of his tasks. I estimated a semester’s worth of work for him. I did this mainly by saying “how long would it take me to do this? Well, he’s a student, so double that amount of time if he’s fast, triple it if he’s slow”. First task I thought would take him a month if he was on top of it, six weeks if he was having trouble. A month goes by. He’s not finished, looks like my six week estimate was more accurate. Six weeks hits, still not finished, alright, give him some extra time. Two months, still not done. Three months, barely finishing. This has been with me taking extra time to give him advice or explaining how to finish a particular task. I was trying to give him some space to get some experience with design, development, testing, the whole lifecycle of a product, but instead it’s been handholding the whole semester. I’ve even let him know that I was expecting him to take more of an independent role since it’s his third semester, but nothing seems to get done unless I practically stand behind him and watch him do it. Of course, the “goof off as soon as I’m stuck” probably has something to do with this.

He continually takes off without letting me know he’s going anywhere. Really, I want to be reasonable about this, so if he needs to meet with his landlord to keep from getting evicted (I don’t have the whole story there), fine, although I dunno why you couldn’t meet outside of business hours. If you have to look for a new place after getting kicked out, sure, you can have an afternoon to do that. But the key here is you need to tell me IN ADVANCE. I thought this was basic courtesy, but after the second time of “hey, I’m going to be out the rest of the day” I told him he needs to give me at least a day’s notice if he’s going to be out, not 5 minutes (emergencies excepted). Hasn’t stopped him. He’s even come up and said “hey, it’s nice, I thought I’d head out and see a movie with my girlfriend now”… to which I simply responded “Do you think you could do that if this was a full-time job?” and he stayed the rest of the day. Dunno what his girlfriend thought of that.

And then there’s the sleeping thing. I’m not the only one that’s caught him passed out either, which isn’t doing my reputation any wonders if people think I’m OK with my interns taking naps in their cubes.

Part of my frustration is I turned in my two-weeks notice this Monday, so I won’t be around to cream him in his end of semester review. But, I don’t think he would get the message since I’ve been letting him know his performance hasn’t been good on a weekly basis for the past two months and nothing has changed.

I just don’t get it. It’s not like he’s unpaid - he’s making $18/hour. I could understand not giving a shit if you weren’t getting paid. But he’s making more than twice minimum wage, and has a wage in line with his major/experience in our location.

Part of me just wants to fire him, but since I’m not going to be here in a week and his semester ends two more weeks after that, there’s not much point. I’m just pissed and needed to vent. Haven’t had this happen with any of our other interns. My wife thinks he’s on drugs, but I haven’t noticed any signs (nor would I ask him up front).

  • apparently his student visa allows him to intern with us, but that visa ends when he graduates, and he’d need an H1-B to avoid deportation.

** For the non-programmers out there, that’s like telling someone you aced your driving test but you don’t know how to put the car in reverse.

Something happened in his life and he’s decided that his internship is no longer important. So he’s blowing it off. Whether his assessment that the internship is not important anymore is correct or not, that’s what he’s decided. So since he doesn’t think it matters, you don’t need to worry about it.

I bet it’s those left outer join queries that put him to sleep. They’re are bitch. :wink:

This.

Or he switched lives with his twin.

Could have gotten caught in a transporter snafu - has he started wearing a goatee lately?

I agree with your wife…he may be on something. It may not be readily apparent, but something drastic happened if he did good work his first two semesters.

Have you asked him about the discrepancy in his work from before and now?

I’m voting for he doesn’t give a shit anymore. It sounds like he graduates at the end of this semester, (and is possibly returning to his home country?) so as far as he’s concerned, he’s got his degree in his pocket and is just marking time until then.

No goatee, but it would explain a lot.

Not directly, but I have asked if there’s things going on that would keep him from doing a good job and he’s always declined to mention anything. I mean, he apparently did get evicted from his apartment (again, not sure why) and apparently his dog got sick sometime during the semester (or that was his latest excuse for bailing), but his performance was in the shitter before either of those happened.

He has one more semester till graduation, and I know he wanted to stay in the states (apparently he didn’t enjoy Korea for whatever reason, although given their neighbors to the north and the fact that’s he’s still in the army reserves I can understand why).

But I think you’re right, he just doesn’t care. Be nice if we could just not care to pay him, but I know that’s not how it works.

If other people have noticed, then there’s no point in covering for him. Conference with these other people and explain your reasons for firing/not firing to them. Also explain why you want to light his eval on fire. If you can, talk it over with whoever is taking over the supervisor role and see if they feel like handling the fallout.

It may be that everyone’s on board with kicking this kid in the pants.

OTOH, if your soon-to-be ex-coworkers don’t want to deal with it, perhaps a call to the kid’s academic supervisor is in order. Whoever arranges the internships at his university will not be pleased to hear that he’s making them look bad.

Waaah, I’ve got a guy working for me for free and he doesn’t do everything exactly the way I like it waaah

Well I’m certainly not hiring you for my “Read the entire OP” internship:

He’s not working for free, he’s getting paid.

Try to keep up.

I’m not getting how your internship program works. Is he working full time for you? (I’d guess so since you are computing his completion dates based on how long it would take to do it.) Is he getting anything out of the internship besides money after three semesters?
But I agree with others that something changed. I had one for a summer who did great, so good we invited him back the next summer. He showed up for two days and then vanished, and we found stolen library books in his desk. We finally officially fired him. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
I hope you write up his sins so that it is considered at his review.

Why do people automatically assume “drugs”?

I smoke a boatload of pot, but I have never once let that get in the way of my productivity at work. Hell, it’s work that pays for my drugs.

Yes, internships from the school we recruit from (incidentally, my alma mater as well) are 40 hours a week for an entire semester. Since it’s spring, he started the first week of January and is scheduled to finish at the end of April.

My boss is the one taking over as his supervisor. I’m probably going to have a sit down with him to cover everything that usually happens when someone leaves their job, and his performance is certainly one of the things I’m going to bring up. I’ve brought it up with him several times so it shouldn’t be any surprise to my boss that I’m not happy.

EDIT: to answer the “is he getting anything besides money”, presumably experience for his resume, had he done a good job a referral or possibly a job offer (some companies treat internships as a semester long job interview), and since he went through several internships he can get a certificate on his diploma (which is not really a huge deal to most people but I’m sure someone cares - I have it on my diploma and it’s the same size and location as “summa cum laude” would be if he earned that distinction)

Probably because the alternative reason for “sudden massive personality change” is a brain tumor, and that’s a bit morbid.

Or “girlfriend dumped me” or “I have to go back to South Korea and I don’t wanna” or “I’m really, really burnt out because I’ve been in college for several years and busting my ass and now I just can’t give a shit.”

I had a friend, many years ago, who was interning with our company. He had some similar issues after a brilliant start. Turns out he was homeless, and sleeping in the office (at night usually, but found there on a few other occasions). There was also some pot involved (sorry kayaker), but I don’t think it was a major contributor. It just didn’t help, given the overall picture, that he had that weedy funk going on.

My vote is that he’s burnt out or depressed, or both. Unfortunately that means he’s fucking things up with your company.

It’s possible that he’s dealing with mental illness.

How about “girlfriend”? Did he not have one the first two semesters, but he has one now? When I was a supervisor, and we had a lot of employees in their early 20s, new boy/girlfriend usually precipitated a personality change.

Alcoholic, new girlfriend, or both.