I hate Aqua Teen Hunger Force

Well, what the hell, as long as we’ve moved on to discuss newer comedy animation in general, I’ll chime in.

Now I’ll bethe first to admit that newer comedy does little for me, especially that used in animated series. This goes all the way back to finding Ren & Stimpy often hilarious but frequently, unecessarily tedious & nasty, rather than the towering work of genius. (I prefer the New Adventures of Mighty Mouse and certain episodes of Freakazoid. I have an odd fondness for the old Ed Grimley cartoon as well, if not the live-action character.)

Space Ghost Coast to Coast. The maker’s of this obviously really enjoyed employing all the old animation sequences from the oh-so-serious original Space Ghost series in the service of pure idiocy, but a little of that went a long way for me. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn’t. They had quite a moment when once, instead of an episode, they simply put a camera in the meeting room for a final script read.

The even weirder Cartoon Planet didn’t really do it for me, but I still laugh at this line:

Space Ghost: “<reading viewer e-mail>I love your show! It looks like it costs you about fifteen cents to produce!</reading> Missed by a nickel, Sport!”

So the Brak show was never even on my radar.

ATHF. I know I’ve seen at least a couple of episodes, but they are not coming to mind. It’s like a brief bout with gas: mildly discomforting, but over soon enough, and then forgotten.

Sealab 2021 I barely remember the series this is parodying, but the few episodes I’ve seen have been OK. Nothing to write home about.

The Simpsons has been coasting for years now. Someone needs to do a study on our need to keep thinking certain comedies are funny. For instance, when Seinfeld ended and Entertainment Weekly did a critical retrospective of the entire series. They found the last season, which they and their readers had seemed to regard as the strongest ever, hardly had an episode that rated above a “C”, much to their stated surprise. Once things make us laugh really hard, we tend to give them an extensive free ride that boggles the imagination. How else can you explain SNL having a 30th season?

Futurama was just never very good. It took me a while to figure out what it is. The Simpsons’ voice cast deserves every penny they can squeeze out of Fox, because lord knows everyone else working on the series has stopped trying. Cartoons are made or broken on sound quality. The animation in Futurama was light years ahead of the Simpsons, but which one is still on? How many times have we enjoyed an exchange between Mr. Burns and Smithers, particularly in the area of comic timing? Then add to that the fact that it’s Harry Shearer talking to himself, and that the lines were recorded at different times, and you realize you are witness to genius. Billy West, who is a great voice man and used to do fantastic stuff on radio in Boston before John Kricfalusi came calling, had to do similar work, and simply can’t pull it off to the same degree. It’s not just a question of the timing of the sound editing, but of being able to make the characters sound like they are responding to what the other just said. Shearer can do it, West could not, and the pace and tone of the show suffered in subtle ways for it.

Similar problems plague Family Guy. Most people’s favorite characters are Stewie and the dog, and it’s no accident that those are the two best voices on the show as well. The voice chosen for Peter is simply not well-suited to putting over the situations that are in the script, IMO. Others’ mileage obviously varies. Plus the whole cast looks like they put Wait Til Your Father Gets Home in a funhouse mirror. The whole thing comes off like a bunch of people not trying very hard.

Now you’re in for it!

Since we’re bringing any and all current cartoons into the discussion, I still say King of the Hill is not only the funniest animated show on TV right now, it’s the funniest show in general (well, maybe tied with Arrested Development). There’ve been very few shows over the years that have maintained KOTH’s level of quality over the amount of time it’s been on.

:eek: At least half this board, including myself, would disagree with you there.

I think it would be more than half.

(adds scotandrsn to his revenge list.)

Try reading the post when you’re really high. It’s funnier that way.

I find it baffling reading this thread…

I don’t understand how anyone can, say, love Sealab but hate ATHF. All the Williams Street shows, Space Ghost, Brak, Sealab, ATHF are all so similar. Their common genesis is obvious. Basically, they all spawn from the Space Ghost model:
[ul][li]Very unscripted improvised-style dialog[/li][li]Lots of pregnant pauses[/li][li]Characters with very well defined traits[/li][li]Non-cell animation (except for bits of stock footage)[/li][li]A propensity for the occasional musical[/li][li]A propensity for the occasional use of bleeped profanity[/li][/ul]
I can understand liking some more than others, but there has yet to be a 70/30 production that I have even come close to hating.

But I also can’t understand how anyone could like both The Simpsons and Family Guy. These two shows are like Star Trek and Lost in Space, they are diametric opposites. The Simpsons is (or was) intelligent satire. The Family Guy is just a bad sitcom which happens to be animated. Comparing The Simpsons to it is like comparing The Simpsons to Home Improvement or Friends. They are not even in the same league.

The best way I can describe The Simpsons lack of quality in recent years is to say that its become The Family Guy. Instead of having original, humorous plots its become just a series of barely related events used to glue together a bunch of mostly unfunny, schticky, lame gags.

And don’t even get me started on Fox bringing back FG instead of Futurama…

After a painstaking series of experiments this weekend, I can report that the fridge is not as funny as Aqua Teen Hunger Force, but it is more entertaining than Family Guy.

I like both Star Trek and Lost in Space, but then, I also like The Simpsons and Family Guy.

This is an easy one, at least viewed from the bottom line: Family Guy certainly must be much, much cheaper to produce.

I finally finished that Family Guy DVD over the weekend. I’m keeping it, but I’ll never watch it again.

And now I’m zipping right through the Aqua Teen Hunger Force DVD. It helps that the episodes are only 11 minutes long.

Man, I must easy to please.

I like ATHF “number one in the hood G.” Carl is absolutely my favorite character, cheap tacky jewelry, flip-flops and shoulder hair get me every time.

I like The Brak Show. I laugh like crazy every time I hear Brak say “I’m wearing greeeeeeeen underwear.” I just always think of Brak as an alien with the mentality of a 4 year old.

I really like **Family Guy ** and Futurama too. **The Simpsons ** I do enjoy, but the past few years have been kinda lame.

This isn’t the pit, so I’ll just point out that your opinion is dead wrong. The reason Futurama isn’t around today is almost entirely because it got time-slotted to death. No one ever knew when it would be on or when it wouldn’t because it was constantly being pre-empted by that game where morons watch other morons in stupid outfits repeatedly run into each other and then further morons talk for hours on end about the majesty of it all.

Futurama had interchanges and timing as good, if not better, than stock Simpsons. And unlike the Simpsons, the show managed to occasionally pull off some real depth amongst the inanity like the episode with Fry’s dog, Leela’s parents, and so on. Granted, Futurama was pitched at a much more specific audience than the Simpsons, but it still had teh funny in spades, and during its run outpaced the concurrently running Simpson seasons in creativity and wit.

What the hell? Have you even been reading this thread? Family Guy is not a traditional sitcom - it’s an excuse for crazy friggin jokes, one after another. Its greatness is in a silly sort of cleverness, not a full-of-itself quasi poignant sort of cleverness.

Frankly, if you think Family Guy is derivative of The Simpsons in the same way that Lost in Space is derivative of Star trek, I’m forced to conclude that you haven’t seen Family Guy. You just haven’t. The two shows are simillar only in that they’re animated comedies about a suburban family - you may as well be comparing All in the Family to Leave it to Beaver, or caviar to lobster.

Furthermore to what Apos said, scotandrsn’s criticism arises partly from false presumptions. Harry Shearer usually does not record Burns’s and Smithers’s dialogue “at different times.”

I wish I had whatever drugs you guys are on, 'cuz that cartoon is a complete piece of crap. I can’t even stand to hear that Meatwad voice for one second. That is the most annoying, unfunny voice I’ve ever heard in my life. Ya know, I thought Space Ghost was original and clever for about 10 seconds, then it got old, and now there’s a jillion bad rip-offs that are a complete waste of time and energy (although I doubt much time or energy was invested in making them).

A-fucking-MEN!

The show started in a great time slot, the most coveted of all Fox timeslots…8:30 PM Sunday. Right after The Simpsons, and with a how that was made by The Simpsons creator, the fan base to watch the show was right there. Them it was moved to the Death SLot, 7 PM on Sunday. As said, it was always prempted in the months of May through January because of Baseball, and then football. It’s like they wanted the show to fail. Yes, the episodes were expensive to produce, but dammit, they were worth it! I’m suprised that it awsn’t picked back up, considering it’s just as sucessful on Adult Swim and has almost as good DVD sales as Family Guy. It just shows that Fox hates the show for no reason whatsoever (probably since they are such giant fucking idtios they don’t get half the jokes and assumes no one else does, either.)

Well, I’ll admit that wasn’t a perfect analogy. No, Family Guy isn’t a traditional sitcom. But what I meant was that its a traditionally lazy network sitcom. The reason The Simpsons has suffered in quality in recent years is because its was of such high quality to begin with. That that level of writing is extremely difficult to maintain. I’m amazed they were able to keep it up as long as they did.

Family Guy was crap right out of the gate. I guess I’m just a snob, but I have a high threshold of ‘cleverness’. And Family Guy is not only not clever, but to me, insulting, because it thinks its really clever. After everyone of its jokes lands with an audible thud its as though I can hear the writers saying, “Hey, wasn’t that clever!? See how witty that reference was? See how we skewered that pop-culture icon with an oh so clever jab!?”. I can’t help but scream back at the TV, “No, it wasn’t clever at all and I could have written something 10 times better!!”

But hey, to each his own, peace, love, stop the war, can’t we all just get along… :smiley:

I am not sure whether this is allowed or not, but I am a fan of Family Guy, Futurama, The Simpsons, South Park, AND ATHF. I know it kind of defies all belief, but I happen to love everyone of those shows. I think they all display their genius in special, unique ways and I can’t see how any of these shows are copies or derivatives of eachother.

Please help me out; I have to rely on pictures, as I don’t subscribe to CN.

The characters are, as far as I can tell, a trio of poorly-animated junk foods. So OK, I can grok the “hunger” part, kind of. The only one who looks remotely human is “Frylock”, whilst the other two are a giant milkshake and a meatball. Where the fuck does the “aqua” and “teen” part come in? Frylock looks like he’s in his thirties, perhaps even forties. It’s a tough call, him being a carton of French fries, I’ll admit; but this just seems like randomness for randomness’ sake. That works on occasion, but if persistent becomes annoying very quickly.

Aqua Teen Hunger Force originated as guest hosts for an episode of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. The idea was that the makers of SGC2C sold out to a fast food chain and allowed their promotional characters to assume control of the show, kind of like if Ronald McDonald and the Hamburgler guest hosted the Tonight Show. The episode never aired during the original run of the show (it finally aired last year, I think), but the characters made such an impression that they got their own show–albiet with considerable refinement. So they’re kind of a punch line without a joke, in that respect.

SGC2C recycled the sellout idea in an episode called “Old Kentucky Shark”, in which the Ghost is required to share the set with a liquor mascot.

Gosh, I forgot about that stuff. I don’t have the Brak album but I do own both the Space Ghost/Cartoon Planet CD’s and they are hilarious. Maybe I’ll dig one out tonite.

I remember really enjoying Cartoon Planet when it was on, more than the interview format of Space Ghost C2C. I just didn’t think the interviews were very interesting – I guess cartoon characters staring blankly is just funnier than when humans do it. (I did love that Space Ghost’s real name is Tad Ghost.) At that time, Cartonn Network had web pages for all the CP characters. Motlar’s was the best; it was something that you’d expect from a 12-yr-old girl with pics of kitties and animated gifs of hearts and stuff.

You have got to be smokin’ something.

–Cliffy