I Hate New-Agers More Than Creationists

Wrong. It’s impossible to fully understand the biological sciences without understanding evolution. Besides which if you don’t “believe” in evolution then you don’t “believe” in science. It’s a pretty good litmus test, you ask me.

I once met a Ph.D in Cosmology (? - Astronomy like) that was a young Earther.

If that doesn’t blow your brains apart I don’t know what will…

IME the Creationists I’ve met were VERY strongly interested in converting others, and in using legislation to force others to live by thier beliefs.

The New Agers I have known, although typically blowhards, were at core uninterested in forcing anything on anybody, and had a distinctly “live and let live” attitude.

So overall, although ignorance, especially *purposeful *ignorance annoys me in any form, the New Age thing doesn’t faze me much; except when I’m seated next to one at a dinner party. (The smell of patchouli affects my appetite.)

I find the Creationist movement frightening, and especially the bizarre hold they seem to have on the Republican party.

Well what else is new? Aji de Gallina just happening to take the opposite stance of everyone here. I never saw that coming. :rolleyes:

Can one of you new-agers enlighten me a little more about what the sweat lodge ceremony is/was?

The article quotes the relatives as saying that one of the deceased “suffocated”. And nineteen people were taken to hospital. Were all the participants piled up on each other? How big was the “lodge” that 50 people could fit in it? How long were they meant to stay in it? They fasted completely for 36 hours beforehand? Could they actually have been suffering from dehydration instead?

So is eating meat, right? “Meat is murder”.

But they can be useful too. My landlord used to sell the ones that you put in your shoes. I had a problem with the dryer opening (and therefore stopping) while it was running. I used one of the shoe magnets to keep the dryer door from opening, and presto, no more dryer problem. They could probably also be used to keep metal cabinets and fridge and freezer doors closed, if they don’t want to stay closed on their own.

I don’t think that’s a stretch, lissener.

Good points. Also good for walking around and finding stray paperclips.

The new-age types don’t actively recruit, but they do often make you listen to their self-congratulatory spiels about how spiritually impoverished everybody else is. When confronted with doubts they are shrill and precious in their martyrdom, and I often suspect that being huffy and histrionic is their real religion.

Would that we had more posters like that.

I wish we didn’t.

Yeah, you can never have enough Creationism apologists, or something.

No, you don’t!

Speaking as someone who does biological research, that’s nonsense. There’s not a single experiment I’ve done in school that would either make a lick of sense or give a shred of meaningful evidence if evolution weren’t true. The same goes for the vast majority of papers that I read.

Yeah, right. Let’s ignore little things like the evolution of disease and pesticide resistance, cancer, and biology in general.

Denying evolution is like denying gravity.

Let’s see. I said science, but I won’t escape. Of course biological research is a higher level than science at schools.
Genetics: You can do Punnet squares and heritage even if you believe that the earth is 6000 years old. You won’t get the whole picture, but you understand the mechanism.
The physiology and anatomy of animals and plants can be leant and understood without evolution. Of course, answering the question “why are they so alike?” will be difficult.
You CAN teach science at school without evolution. It is stupid and pointless, but you can understand most things well enough.

Sure, but most creationists will agree on the mechanisms and call it “micro” evolution.
I fail to see that evoluton is the cornerstone oif all science, this kind of thinking only applies in the US.
As stuoid as not undrerstanding evolution is, you can still be a top level engineer, physic, astrophysic without Darwin.
It’s wrong, but it won’t affect yopu results.

BTW; it not like denying gravity, not even remotely.

If you’ve got to hold on to a religion and live your life according to one, perhaps cobbling one together from the good parts of many and letting the really bad shit just die on the vine would be a positive sort of situation.

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[li]You are retarded.[/li][li]The other thing that applies in the U.S. is we mostly know how to read English. [/li][li]Read the actual thread before you try to contradict it.[/li][li]You’re still retarded. I wrote that again since you probably didn’t read the first time I said it.[/li][/ol]

New-ager to me is far more broad than Creationist. Wouldn’t the appropriate criticism be new-ager versus Christianity?