It’s just Nava’s ova estimation, Fear Itself.
So you tell me what a small business owner is supposed to do?
No matter what you do, Never Ever say, "…Dang… when I said to get busy, That’s Not What I Meant…!" ![]()
-d&r-
Is this type of discrimination in hiring legal in the United States?
No, it’s not.
I think you’re being too hard on yourself, business is business. You have a responsibility to do what is in the best interest of your business while complying with the law.
From what I’ve experienced in life, you’re not even scratching the surface of scumminess that many small business owners resort to to stay afloat.
People should avoid working for small businesses for this reason - they have far fewer protections such as FMLA, and small businesses cannot usually afford to make the accommodations that larger businesses are legality required to make.
They are supposed to just reach into their pockets and pass out money, duh.
If you own a business, you are obviously a fat-cat-one-percenter who got rich off the backs of hardworking Americans. Quit being greedy.
I think there’s some room in the middle here. Perhaps at least a direct phone call or email is the bare minimum, especially for someone you think’s a good employee, that doesn’t quite go into throwing money at the masses territory.
Actually, if you have less than 15 full-time employees, it is perfectly legal:
http://advocatesforpregnantwomen.org/06CFinalDraft.pdf
This true not just for pregnancy, but for gender, race, disability, religion, etc.
Federal laws prohibiting discrimination in hiring only apply if you have at least 15 or 20 full-time employees, depending on exactly what discriminatory factor is prohibited.
Another cite, from the US Equal Opportunity Employment Commission: Coverage of Business/Private Employers | U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
I can’t believe this is real.
These, among many other legal disadvantages, are what I was was referring to in my post upthread.
What about state laws? Do they have a similar threshold for number of employees before anti-discrimination laws kick in?
Have you ever been a small business owner?
This all goes back to the basic 4 of what an employer is looking for in a worker:
- What is their experience or training?
- Will they fit in?
- How long are they going to stay?
- How much will they cost them?
When you hire someone you hope to train them and hope they will stay with you. And you want someone who’s going to work their butt off for you. If you only have 2-3 employees you cant have one miss work for maternity leave. And that goes even further, they dont want a person who is going to put their kids first before their job.
And before you scream “sexist” their are women owned businesses and woman bosses who will do the same as a man.
Is it discrimination to pick an employee that you feel will stay with the company longer than another or will be a better fit?
This is an issue you see in schools where the school districts like to hire teachers in their 20’s (and mostly women at the elementary schools) but these same young women are more likely to want to start a family and you have issues of several teachers at maternity leave at the same time (I know, it must be something in the water).
Up until my son was in 4th grade and had a male teacher 3 of his previous 5 teachers in elementary school had babies during the year and had gone on maternity leave which can really disrupt the classroom when they get alot of subs. Plus then once a woman has a baby she will need more time off to take the baby in to doctors and such and his 3rd grade teacher had to take have about an hour a day off to go pump.
Yes, if the reason you think they’ll stay with the company longer or be a better fit is their sex, or that they’re pregnant or likely to become pregnant.
See, but that’s based on assumptions you’re making. You’re ignoring that a male teacher may take a child care leave when his wife/partner has a baby or any teacher might take one when adopting a child, ignoring that any teacher may need time of to take someone (whether it’s a newborn baby, the grandchild they have custody of , a spouse or an elderly parent) to the doctor, ignoring that any teacher may become ill or injured and need a disability leave. None of them are going to be any less disruptive than the 26 year old female teacher’s leave. It’s easy to say a 20- something year female old is more likely to need maternity leave - but I’ve never seen anyone compare that to the rate of of 50-something year old men who need time off due to a heart attack or the rate of employees needing any kind of extended leave in general.
It’s sexist because you are assuming that men don’t have children, or that if a man does have children, it won’t affect his employment. Women are out for a few weeks around the time of giving birth, but men of child-bearing age could be out equally long for a sports injury. Both parents equally have child-minding duty, or might take time off for a sick child. Sexists assume that women have a disproportionate share of child-care duty.
Yeah, fuck, Urbanredneck. As a parent affected by someone becoming a parent, you should be outraged.
The fucking inconvenience of female biology.
Even when we’ve managed to manipulate it through birth control and IVF and elective caesareans and snap-back deliveries, the fucking thing STILL gets in the way of someone fucker wanting SOMETHING.
Is Apple working on iWomb yet?
Someday it will be available. You’ll have to enter a 20-digit key of upper, lower, and special characters 3 times perfectly to get the iWomb epidural to work though.
Apple still isn’t saying what year they’ll be get it to market though, because the prototypes keep getting smashed during the clinical trials…
The teacher comparison is inaccurate; the business the OP has does not offer paternity or disability leave, (FMLA), and has no legal requirements to do so due to the small size.
It is generally known that 50 year old people will have more health issues than younger workers on the whole, this data is not difficult to find. The legal starting point to claim age discrimination is 40 years old.