The fact that she went to so much effort in the beginning belies the excuse that her home server was just ‘convenient’. She either knew she was taking big risks, or she’s too stupid to be president. If she knew she was taking risks and still went to extraordinary lengths to avoid using government mail services, you really have to step back and ask why.
The most charitable explanation is that she thought Republicans would go on endless FOIA expeditions, and she wasn’t about to let them get away with it. The least charitable explanation is that she was avoiding FOIA because she was up to something shady, possibly involving the Clinton Foundation.
The investigation into this supposedly involves 147 FBI agents. It doesn’t take that many agents just to go through the E-mails, so I am sure they have agents following up chains of information, trying to find out where the classified info came from, who else might know about it, etc. If it’s true that SAP information was found on her hard drive with passages word-for-word from the original documents, then someone committed a felony transcribing it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if multiple indictments come out of this, including people who we don’t even know about yet. Whether Hillary will be one of them is an open question.
Hillary seems to me to be very Nixonian in disposition. Nixon was smart and pretty effective, but his undoing was his personal paranoia and secretive disposition, coupled with a ‘rules don’t apply to me when I am right’ attitude.
So it follows that if that number of agents involved was pulled by the media from their nether regions then it is less likely that the FBI is not doing more than what they told us before no?
Well…:
It remains a security audit or review made by the FBI that is not a criminal investigation. So, yeah, it would still be surprising to see recommendations (the FBI can not indict people as it was pointed many times before) to indict.
No, the most charitable explanation is that she saw no compelling reason to change the emails system she was already using. I’m not saying this was the right decision, but it doesn’t require a deliberate attempt on her part to stifle Republican inquiries.
Or am I missing something? Is there any evidence that Hilary set up this personal system after she became SOS, as an alternative to the official channels would have been offered when she got in office?
This. Shrill, Clinton bashing. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, Benghazi. The Clinton Foundation. Vince Foster. Yeah, very familiar that sound.
Let me know when the sky is actually falling. Thanks.
Since we now know that the investigation won’t be complete until after she’s nominated, and you really don’t care what she did(and many Clinton supporters share your view), then if she is indicted, or the damage is so bad from the final report that her candidacy is sunk, that means I’ll hear no whining from you about a replacement candidate? Because once she’s nominated, she’s the candidate. No backsies.
Frankly, I don’t care if she’s convicted of killing Vince Foster before or after the convention. She’s STILL better than anyone who’s ever been running on the Republican side this cycle. Anyone.
I think this is partially true and partially false. The domain she used was set up immediately prior to becoming Secretary of State (registered on 1/13/09, the day of her Senate confirmation hearings).
Having said that, there was a prior email server set up at their home (used by Bill Clinton). They replaced that prior to becoming Secretary of State with a server that her presidential campaign had been using.
Seems like the timeline is that Bill Clinton had a private server installed at their Chappaqua home for his use. Hillary Clinton’s campaign set up a private server for her campaigns use. When preparing to become Secretary of State, they took her campaign’s server and installed it at their Chappaqua home, replacing Bill’s old server, and registered a new domain to use.
So it’s definitely not true to say she was just continuing to use the same setup she was using before as some matter of convenience. It is true that she (and Bill Clinton) used private servers before and that they were essentially updated and upgraded prior to taking on the position.
It depends on what you mean by “same setup.” If you mean an unsecured Blackberry using a personal email server located at her home, then the setup didn’t change, right?
Well, wasn’t she using a personal server located somewhere other than her home during her campaign. From what I’ve read, I think Bill Clinton was using a personal email server (different from the Hillary Clinton campaign server) located at their home. Not sure where her server was located, maybe where ever her campaign headquarters was located. Re-quoting from here.
This gets a little ridiculous though. When average people talk about keeping their same email for convenience they would mean the same email address. She clearly was using a different email address since they didn’t even register the domain until her confirmation hearings.
I don’t read your quote as saying they moved the server from somewhere else to her home, but even if that’s so, I’m not sure it matters to the lay definition of “same setup.” See below.
I disagree. When people talk about keeping the same setup convenience, they aren’t talking about domain names. They mean her continuing to use an unsecured Blackberry accessing some personal server, as distinct from PCs accessing a government server.
This seems incredibly strange to me. What would inconvenience you more, if your work email address changed or if they swapped out servers and your email address stayed the same? I am guessing 99.9% of people would be far more inconvenienced by having to change their email address than any change to the server.
Further, I think you are confusing the issue. She could have still used a Blackberry to access her email even if she was using a government address. She wasn’t supposed to use a smart phone of any type in certain secure locations. Further, she wasn’t supposed to send classified information in email regardless of whether it was a personal email address or a state address. The fact is that when you are handling classified material there are going to be some inconveniences involved.