I hope you choke on all that goat cock, countertop fabricators.

The bidet in my house has the faucets flipped. The one with the red top is the cold water, the one with the blue top is the hot one.

Well, a bidet is definitely one application where you’d want to be damned sure of that!

He came and looked at it today and they really are trying to get it fixed as soon as possible. It seems they’re going to do it by possibly cutting the drywall to move the countertop back and to the left, instead of changing the edge? Anyway, evidently they may have to unfasten the sink but it will only take a few hours.

At any rate, I got the feeling they weren’t going to fix the cabinet. They said they don’t do cabinetry, and I said “Well, yes, but you broke it” and he said “Well, it wasn’t well secured” and I said “Your workmen could see how it was put together and weren’t careful about how they put the slab on”, but I kind of feel they’re not going to fix it. Which I had accepted when they broke it, so I suppose I will be satisfied if I have to fix that as long as they fix the countertop and I don’t have to call the plumber back in.

Hmmm, given that they inspected the location (and observed it before dropping the slab on), I think they should have given some warning that the installation could cause damage to the poorly installed cabinet.

Is there anything in your contract/purchase paperwork that says how damage caused by installation is covered?

No. What I signed is an estimate - no contract language on it. However, when they come to fix it, one of the owners will be there. I’m going to take it up with them.

>DA Jim Garrison<
Back, and to the left… back, and to the left… back, and to the left.
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Oh no kidding. Makes me miss… what the hell was her name? I laughed so hard I cried when I saw the words that (former?) Doper made up. “Clitnibbler” made me weep.

Great rant. When I was in the house upstate during my former life, we ripped out the kitchen. However, all of the cabinetry and sinkenetry and stuff was on order and coming in. We figured, fuck the delivery man. We wanted to go not one day without a working sink.

And we did. I’m not meaning to gloat here, because I feel your pain in a major way. But the kitchen? No mercy. Give no quarter. The contractor- a pal- was made to deal with the delivery fellow, and we made them wait till all parts were in place.

Sink out, counters out. Counters in, sink it. Fuck 'em. No dry days in that kitchen. The delivery company was pissed, but you know… my check book, my choice.

jarbabyj?

ding ding ding ding ! Yep.

You know, I forgot to come back and tell you all how it went? They did come back to fix the countertop, and by a great deal of thumping and cutting into the drywall they got it close enough that the guy showed me (16th of an inch, I think) but I can’t tell, so I’m happy with that.

But I said, “Okay, so what about this cabinet?” and he said “Well, you’ll have to tell them to…” and I gently said, “Well, I really don’t think that’s right. I mean, I paid this much money to you guys, and now the cabinet is wrong not just because you broke it but also because of the way you fixed it. For that much money, shouldn’t it be done right?” And they fixed it.

And I didn’t yell. So I have this whole argument ready to scream - I mean, I practiced it in the mirror before they came over. And I didn’t get to use it, which makes me rather sad.

ETA - although I did realize just yesterday that with all the thumping one of my drawers scrapes a bit now. I am going to try adjusting it before I use that argument, though. :slight_smile:

Beeswax. Takes care of wood on wood scraping.

I kinda wondered about that “cutting into the drywall” bit. I know little of construction, but weren’t you worried about them maybe also cutting into the studs the drywall is attached to? And what about sealing so that liquids spilled on the counter don’t run in behind the drywall now that it’s been breached?

There’s going to be a tile backsplash, so that shouldn’t be a problem. One HOPES they only cut into the drywall and no farther. I don’t know - that’s the fix they offered me, and I didn’t feel like I could tell them how to do their own jobs.

ETA - it isn’t really a wood scrape thing - they’re Ikea cabinets, I think I just need to pop the drawer thing open and use the adjusting screws. It goes in, it just scrapes a bit at the last half inch. Although that whole cabinet seems a bit more tightly placed - they were really banging stuff around in there, hope nothing’s out of square now! But on the whole I’m relatively satisfied that they did stand up behind their product and installation, once prodded a bit.

I’m glad it finally worked out OK. And it’s nice you were able to be civil. There’s no sense in making them NOT want to work for you and get it right.

Still not sure what the root cause was, and it seems strange that the cut into the sheetrock rather than just cut the slab, but if it works, so be it.

If they didn’t seal the stone, be sure to do so soon. You’ll probably need to reseal every year or 2 to keep in nice looking.

Short as it was. Since he did the same thing in GQ, I sent him to the spammers’ graveyard.

Perhaps you can christen your new kitchen, in honor of this, ‘Counter-Productive’.

Good luck

Might be more amusing to christen it " Spammers Graveyard ".

" Hey JoBeth? Where’s Earl? "

" He’s in the Spammers Graveyard grabbing a coupla-three Yuengling’s !! "

:smiley:

Arrrgggh! My turn. They just told me 1.5 weeks to get them in to do the template. Then three more weeks after that before it’s cut and installed. Another month plus without a kitchen! We did figure out a way to makeshift a sink or we’d be hosed. We’d been told 3 weeks plus for the cabinets, but not another 3 plus for the countertop. The Bog is pissed.

Ah, the little details. They do leave them out, and then the details come to bite you in the ass.

My dad used to say cattywampus. I loved that word when I was a kid. His family is from western Maryland, for what that’s worth.

I thought it was related somehow to kitty-cornered (which he also said).