I hope you got taken to jail . . .

Okay, speaking as a mom here.

No, my comfort zone does not involve padded rooms and not allowing Aaron to do anything. My comfort zone (indeed, my job as a parent) is to allow him to explore his world without killing or seriously hurting himself. Bruises and scrapes are part of growing up. I don’t think any of us here have escaped childhood without at least one trip to the ER for doing something that probably qualifies as stupid.

That said, there is a line between allowing a child to explore and being flat-out irresponsible. I don’t throw Aaron in the back seat of the car and drive off. That would be irresponsible, not to say dangerous. Likewise, allowing two young children to poke their head out of a car doing 90 mph isn’t going to net that woman mother of the year.

Do I think the mother should’ve been hauled off to jail? No, but a citation would have been good. If those kids had been hurt, however, jail would be a very good idea.

Robin

You can all go ahead and call the cops for every little thing, consider yourselves heroes, and think you are saving the world. That’s your prerogative.

I think you got WAY too riled up over this.

Yes Eleusis, we are all proposing to call the cops on every little thing (funny, I don’t remember those of us opposing you threatening to call the cops).

Good to see that you actually understood what the debate was about. Now run along, toots.

Wow Eleusis,

Way to duck out of a debate you’re losing.

Jodi couldn’t have answered your response to me any better. Thanks Jodi.

Oh, and you’re an idiot.

Debate I’m losing? Gimme a break.

I stated that I think this attitude of calling the cops for minor shit like this is ridiculous. I was not “debating” whether or not it was irresponsible behaviour, and I never said it was of risk equivalent to my examples. But they do share one important parallel. Every one of my examples are things you would have to be a real prick to call the cops about, just like the OP.

People who run to the phone and waste the police’s time for pissant shit like this piss me off. That’s it.

And for the record, can you tell me how this bullshit answered my question?

Read my question again, S L O W L Y.

Would you have been (as in past tense) offended if the neighbors had called the cops? As in THEN. NOT “in hindsight”. Are you really that stupid you can’t tell the difference?

I seriously do want to quit this asinine thread, not because “I’m losing” but because liberal fucking pisspots like yourself piss me off and I feel there’s no getting through to you.

Ooooh ya got me real good there didn’t ya?

I’m reminded that people who pull such stunts may have their lasts words be…

“Hey! Watch this!”

Yo Eleusis, you’re clearly much smarter than anyone else in this thread so why don’t you run along and find others who match your “intelligence” like say the message board at www.I’mAFuckingGimpNugget.com.

You are obviously having a hard time comprehending the written word here, maybe you’ll fit in a better over there.

Ta ta, Punkins.

Diane-

sigh. You seem to be the only person here doing just that. Your words have just deflated everything thus far spoken, for either side, (your cronies included) in this thread.
Nobody! Yet! has yet taken upon themselves to “debate” me on the topic of “Liberal pisspots calling the cops for every little thing”.

Insult my intelligence? Is that all you have left? The odds are 99 to 1 that I am indeed smarter than you before even entering this godforsaken thread. Add to that your simpleton objections to my arguments, and I personally put that at better than a thousand to one.

How old are you anyway?

Your arguments have yet to address a single point made in any of my posts.

oh, yeah - the cops have nothing better to do than chase down all those nasty-parents-exposing-their-kids-to-things-I-don’t-find-appropiate.

bet the local cops just love you busybodies

tell me - do you measure the tread on your neighbor’s tires? It’s illegal to drive a car on a public road with less than x amount of tread, you know - THEY MIGHT SKID AND HIT A KID!!!

[sub]give it a rest - the OP was as far out of line as the MBZ with the loose kids[/sub]

As a parent, I would feel it my responsibility to do the exact same thing. The Mercedes driver was in clear violation of the law. Period. If it were just the driver, I may not have called, would have gotten out of their way and hoped they wrecked down the road.

But with children involved, it becomes important to help insure the safety of the next generation. This driver was not doing that.

HH if you saw a child bolting out into the street into the path of an oncoming car, would you try to take steps to save the child (flag down the car, chase child, scream for the parents)? Or would you just shake your head and imagine how much fun the child is having right up to the point of impact?

Because the analogy is the exact same thing.

Here’s a clue for you Brainiac - No one has taken it upon themselves to “debate” you because . . . . drum roll please . . . . .

NO ONE HAS STATED THAT COPS SHOULD BE CALLED FOR EVERY LITTLE THING.

You are trying to argue a point that no one is disagreeing with and then stomping your feet and pouting when no one responds. The sad thing is, is that you are too stupid to see this and continue to make yourself look like a fool.

Uh, hey stupid fuck, need the definition of sarcasm? That obviously flew right over your head, now didn’t it?

Is it only slightly possible that even if the child remains in the car with thead poking out the sunroof, and that no child ever fell out that there would be no risk ?

Of course not, I’d be willing to put money down that most Dopers have been out bicycling at some time and been struck in the face by an insect.

So here we have idiot parent risking the eyesight of their child, at the very least, at 90mph a bumble bee would probably impact so hard it would pierce the skin of a 3 year old.

So while we are looking at completely irrelevant issues such as airplane crashes, or any of the other numerous strawmen arguements, lets see if any Doper here is such a good driver that they can predict the flight path of every insect, or any other projectile that might happen along a freeway.

BTW there are so many strawmen in here its starting to feel like a Shredded Wheat costume convention.

Eleusis: “Blech. Get off your high horse and mind your own damn business.”

MsRobyn: “Eleusis, for your sake, I hope to God you’re being facetious.”

Eleusis: “Does it warrrant calling the cops and getting your panties in a bunch? Emphatically no.”

lezlers: “You too, are stuck in the black and white camp.”

Eleusis: "I’m saying do-gooder liberal bigheads could do better channelling their energy elsewhere. "

Diane: “Physician…”

Eleusis: “I think you got WAY too riled up over this.”

Diane: “Now run along, toots.”

lezlers: “your an idiot.”

Eleusis: "People who run to the phone and waste the police’s time for pissant shit like this piss me off. That’s it. "

Diane: "why don’t you run along and find others who match your “intelligence” like say the message board at www.ImAFuckingGimpNugget.com. "

Eleusis: “Your arguments have yet to address a single point made in any of my posts.”

DIANE: "You are trying to argue a point that no one is disagreeing with and then stomping your feet and pouting when no one responds"

Holy shit you are truly clueless, diane.

Hey dumb dumb, I still fail to see in all your quotes ANYONE saying that the cops should be called “for every little thing”.

Did you forget you wrote this little gem -

AGAIN - NO ONE IS DEBATING YOU ON THE TOPIC OF “LIBERAL PISSPOTS blah blah blah” BECAUSE . . . .

Now listen very carefully,

. . . NO ONE IS SAYING THAT WE SHOULD!

Maybe in your little world the things you quoted above implies that sentiment, but those of us with more than a 2nd grade reading comprehension level have no problem understanding what has been written in this thread.

Got it now, Snookums?

Oh, great, another Monty Python Argument thread in the Pit.

If only we had a Holy Hand Grenade…

Once upon a time, happyheathen joined a message board.

Initially, he seemed to be a reasonable, productive member. His opinions didn’t stray much out of a subset of the mainstream, but he did have interesting things to say, and expressed himself with wit and clarity. However, he discovered, as do we all, that many of his early posts went unremarked. He felt insecure and ashamed, wondering what was wrong with him that his opinions, once offered, failed to elicit much of a response.

Because, in fact, he was merely one of a teeming horde, jostling for attention and respect. He found that it was taking an uncomfortably long time to build up a persona on the message board, and that he wasn’t getting personal satisfaction from his contributions. Perhaps subconsciously, he suspected that he wasn’t doing enough to set himself apart from the thousands of other individuals, and wasn’t making much of a mark.

Then he discovered, possibly by chance, possibly by deliberate experimentation, that he could attract more attention by posting more outrageous opinions. To be sure, this earned him a share of rebuke and admonishment, as his forays outside the bounds of rationality and respectfulness triggered the ire of other members of the message board.

However, he had discovered his Holy Grail, a Shortcut To Identity. Rather than being lumped in with all the other individuals who shared the majority of his views, he could proactively attack those who disagreed with him, and thereby gain the notice of the board at large. The downside, perhaps, is that the image he created was of a hotheaded jerk, but certainly, he believed, that was preferable to suffering the shame of anonymity.

Unfortunately for happyheathen, he found that this strategy, while indeed a shortcut, was also short-lived: He had to engage in ever more outrageous behavior in order to continue achieving the same effects. No longer content with hijacking threads to attack people’s religious beliefs, he got sucked into a self-perpetuating spiral of abusive behavior, ultimately resorting to the labeling of his debate opponents as morons and subhumans in a misguided attempt to keep his side of the “discussion” afloat.

Eventually, his entire interpersonal grammar was replaced by insults and invective, and the formerly productive and informative poster was, to the eyes of everyone on the message board, replaced with a uselessly venemous curmudgeon who contributed absolutely nothing to any thread in which he participated. Sadly, the message board began to turn their backs on him.

The result, of course, is that it took even more outrageousness on the part of happyheathen to get the attention of those who had chosen to disregard him. The vicious circle continued: The more effort he expended to maintain his profile, the more the board collectively turned away. It got so bad that, toward the end, he was actually reduced to defending a person’s right to drive at unbelievably unsafe speeds with children loose and unsecured in the vehicle.

And finally, like a snake eating his tail, he spun himself into oblivion and vanished. But by that time, nobody was paying attention, and there were no witnesses to his final act of self-disintegration.

The end.

The Inevitable Sequel

Once upon a time, Eleusis joined a message board. However, he never had anything valuable to contribute from Day One, so when he finally slunk away to find a forum where his slopeheaded burbling would be better received, no one noticed at all. The end.

Aw, Cervaise,

I didn’t know you cared.

You’re so sweet…

it’s natural selection. try not to interfere with it, no matter how much you desire to do so. Remember, gross negligence is heriditary. Those kids need to be taken out of the gene pool before they reproduce, and hanging out of the sunroof is a valid way of achieving that result. Isn’t nature beautiful?

You’re my new hero…