You know, I agree. He’s got more lose screws than an old Studebaker. But he’ll be too busy chasing illegals who he thinks might have voted against him, managing his martial law in Chicago, building his wall and other pressing national issues like getting his hair done. He’ll probably be glad to get rid of CA and those pesky blue voters. He’ll see it as a victory for the Republican party. Get rid of the 55 EV from CA and the Republicans will be in power -forever-. God help you poor souls when this happens.
Is that an intentional pun? I’m completely on-base, I looked it up and posted cites a while ago. The Federal government owns about 45% of the land in CA, including all of the military bases that I looked up. When you talk about demanding concessions from the US for access to those bases, or requiring leases, you’re talking about seizing US federal government property. That didn’t go well for South Carolina.
Against revolutionaries breaking federal law and trying to seize US property. Or, if they recognize CA as a country, a hostile foreign power claiming sovereignity over American citizens in their own homes.
Any country that allows arbitrary secession ceases to be a functional country. I will note that you didn’t address the issue of what happens if smaller parts of CA (reguions, counties, even neighborhoods) decide to secede from CA as part of Calexit, probably because you realize that the country would fall apart if you applied the logic behind Calexit to post-exit California. Any country that allows rebel groups or foreign powers to claim dominion over the homes of its citizens without a fight also ceases to be a functional country. You keep ignoring that CA is populated by American citizens, and your Calexit vote doesn’t suppose a 100% vote in favor of leave.
You’re trespassing, we aren’t.
We have our secret weapon. A made-in-America genuine monster capable of destroying the US in a very short time. A evil so great that even God himself is crying over the carnage and destruction this gastropod will leave in its wake. With this weapon, the US will be defeated in short order. It’s great having a parachute from such an evil monster. It’ll be fun watching the carnage from a free country too.
LOL, any country that elects what this country elected ceased to be a functional country.
Wait and see. It’s going to be funny and sad at the same time. Any wall built will be to protect CA from US refugees fleeing the reining Oligarchy of Awfulness. First come first serve. Housing will be in limited supply.
This seems like a rather hard to believe story, btw. From what I can see it’s an inflated retelling of some Chinese official saying “how would you like it if we armed Hawaiian seperatists?” in response to U.S.-Tawain arm sales. I seriously doubt any actual offer or rejection happened. The story is not on any reliable sites.
California? You didn’t build that. As the South learned you don’t mess with the Army.
Psst… nobody knows whether you’re joking with this post or not. All your other arguments have been so absurd, it is making your support of California Mecha-Godzilla look normal.
So when Obama said, “We’re going to be okay,” he was… lying?
Yes, I don’t think he realizes how hard it is to tell his joke posts from serious ones. The ‘serious’ position is that a rogue movement in CA is going to take over the state, seize the state from America, seize Federal land (or declare independence with a foreign country owning almost half the state), claim sovereignity over US citizens and lands. The US isn’t going to do anything because the movement says they’re peaceful and have a bad misreading of UN policy on colonies, even though the US is headed by a frothing madman who’s just looking for an excuse to blow things up. Other countries are going to flock to recognize this new state even though they are fundamentally opposed to its founding principle, and will provide military support against any potential US invasion. The country will automatically get UN membership in spite of the US veto just because, and also NATO membership even though they won’t have an army capable of meeting treaty obligations. Oh, and they’ll all get to keep US citizenship but won’t have to pay any US taxes.
I’m pretty sure he’s talking about Trump. But the resemblance to Mecha-Godzilla may be apt.
I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you please clarify, and while you’re at it, maybe tell me whether the Marines at Camp Pendleton are trespassing or not?
That about sums it up and it’s bizarre.
When put like Pantastic did, it does sound like something I’d hear from a “sovereign citizen”.
No, they are beneficiaries of a lease of Real Property from our glorious Republic.
Excuse my levity in this. See, people have gone on and on for pages now about why this can’t happen. The fact is it is happening. Work is being done and will continue. We don’t have to wait long, trust me, support will grow, especially if Trump tries bullying CA into changing. (per J. Brown)
I trust my fellow Californian’s. I trust them because we are one of the few states to score high on the national IQ test held November 8th. So many states failed, SAD. I know most of us are against things like “Waterboarding” as per Trumps plan. Stuff like that will bring support to us, one voter at a time.
All the other "you can’t do this, or that, or we’ll do this, etc. is just static. No one knows what can be done. We’ll just have to see. Meanwhile, lend a hand and sign the petition.
“lease”? They’re not leasing it now. They own it outright (well, the federal government does). Why would they start paying RoCA a lease on land they already own?
This gets back to that 45% of California that’s currently owned by the us.gov. What are your plans for that? Are you going to try to kick them off the land and claim ownership? Are you going to let the Feds keep it? Are you going to try to buy it from them? We’re talking about nearly half of your new country. What’s the plan?
We gonna do this again? Ca hasn’t voted yet. Assuming CA becomes an independent nation, we’re free to do with it as we choose. I’m sure the US will negotiate for “their” bases.
It’ll probably go something like this…
*The United States of America agrees to withdraw and surrender, and does hereby withdraw and surrender, all right of possession, supervision, jurisdiction, control or sovereignty existing and exercised by the United States of America in and over the territory and the people of the Philippine Islands, except the use of such bases, necessary appurtenances to such bases, and the rights incident thereto, as the United States of America, by agreement with the Republic of the Philippines, may deem necessary to retain for the mutual protection of the United States of America and of the Republic of the Philippines. The United States of America further agrees to recognize, and does hereby recognize, the independence of the Republic of the Philippines as a separate self-governing nation and to acknowledge, and does hereby acknowledge, the authority and control over the same of the Government instituted by the people thereof, under the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines.”
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“…by agreement with…” It’s up there. Precedent.
The state of California has 0 leverage.
Yup, it’s going to ask / insist that 37 other states join it in passing a Constitutional amendment to allow it to secede. If 13 states say “no”, I guess they’re just going to give up on this idea, so the sooner we can get to that point, the sooner this insanity will end.
Yes, we’re going to ask to be accepted. Then we’ll bribe the southern politicians and get approve, reason with the northern politicians and get approved, and deceive the midwestern politicians by switching the position of yes and no on their ballot. It’s the way politicians work. Notice there are 3 i’s in politician, and no u’s.
And when the Southerns say no out of spite (“if we can’t get out, you sure as hell can’t”) and the Yankees say no because, despite all your reasoned arguments about the UN Charter, they instantly see what a horrible electoral position #CalExit leaves them in, and refuse to sign onto the Democratic Party suicide pact, what then?
Just curious, do you have a target list of 37 states you’re going to try to bribe or reason with? Are there any that you think are lost causes, that there’s no way you’d ever convince to go along with it, so you’ve put them in the basket of deplorables list that you’re hoping doesn’t grow to 13?