Funny you said that. The Huff Post said California’s weed industry is a 31 billion dollar a year industry. Much of that is exported from California to those states that don’t have the favorable growing conditions.
Don’t be so quick to call California “stoned.”
Of course, CA legalized recreational weed along with (3 or 4) other states this election. California was I believe the first state to legalize medical marijuana too. Back in the mid 90s IIRC. Shit starts in CA, and in no time at all, you’ll all be sporing the pony tail and shit faced grins as sip your imported (Napa Valley) wine.
I think the process, if it ever even happened, would be slow while both sides adjust. I was stationed in Monterey CA for years off and on, and the Ft. Ord closing seemed to take forever and the last time I was there they still had the PX & Commissary and various other things still up and running. The US has thousands of military and federal employees working all over the world and rarely does anyone demand they all close up shop and move overnight. Another example might be drawdowns and base closing in other countries. Lots of bases closed in Germany, and that took a long time. Okinawa Japan might be another example. I’m no expert on the subject, but I think Okinawa wanted bases closed but it’s taking awhile. Ukraine and Russia might be another example. They had to divvy up a lot of military bases and equipment too.
In my head, I imagine the process would be long and drawn out, possibly more so than Brexit, with both sides acting amicably. I’m not imagining a civil war era war of the colonies.
Anyway, the civil war was over slavery which to my mind is good guys vs. bad guys. Texas wanting to secede seemed to be also about the US becoming too liberal and progressive. California seceding is the exact opposite. The US is regressing, and CA is sick of being left out of the decision making process while funding the regression. I’d say in very oversimplified terms, California is the north, and the US is becoming the south. (it’s not really quite that bad of course)
From the UN on the processto become recognized as a member (edited to add the HTML number bullets back in and add emphasis):
So why do you think you have any chance of getting recognized by the UN in a timely fashion? They UN can’t accept you as a member unless the United States allows it.
This seems just like my fellow Scots who want to secede just because there’s a Tory government in Westminster, not realising that there will eventually be a Tory (or the equivalent thereof) government in Holyrood.
The problem is that you are comparing grapes to gravel. The two things may have a few characteristics in common but are vastly different things. California would not be allowed to secede. The moment the vote is taken and the measure passed, California is part of the US in open rebellion against the rest of the country the first time anything is tried to actually enforce the measure. You are thinking that the US Government is going to basically say “Oh well” and let it go. That will not happen.
Lol. I’d like to see that skirmish actually. California National Guard vs 101st airborne, the 3rd armored and the 7th fleet. Air Force could sit it out.
Because he has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about, nor even an elementary understanding of politics or economics. But hey, bragging about treason makes him feel better. At least he’s not out blocking traffic or something.
octopus I would expect to see 11th ACR myself, along with a little help from 1/221st ACS, the 41st BCT, 285th AVR and 1/158th Inf and perhaps 116th ACB
So…how exactly is that supposed to work? The state of California is going to secede, and the USA is going to allow the people in it to remain citizens? Why in the world would they do that?
Of course, it’s a moot point, because it’s never, ever going to happen…
Also the claims for the greatness of California’s economy (and it is a great economy) have thoroughly ignored many if not most of the things that allowed California’s economy to grow. I suspect that if one were to dig a bit deeper it would turn out that California isn’t really as much of a true overall contributor as it seems on the quick look.
Arguably, anyone who was born in what was part of the United States at the time they were born would remain a US citizen by virtue of the 14th Amendment. And their post-secession California-born children would have the same entitlement to US citizenship as the children of US citizens born anywhere else in the world do now. But the idea that future Californians without that kind of link to the US would automatically have dual citizenship seems unlikely to me.
If California undertakes to secede without armed conflict, there’ll have to be negotiation. This must certainly include compensation for federal assets that RofCA wants to take with it.
CA has more National Parks, Monuments, Historic Places, etc. than any other state. There are many thousands of square miles of National Forests. All these should command fine prices. I think Yosemite National Park alone should not go for less than, say, $160 billion - ten times that annual tax amount.
