"I just don't get ___ " "I can explain that to you. But I just don't get ____"

Well, they don’t look at it that way. They are proud to be American and proud to be country, which is everything from the food they eat to the traditions they keep to the clothes they wear to the schools their kids go to. They are proud to be politically conservative which ties right into their pride in being Christian. It’s all about the old fashioned “family values” type of stuff.

And the flip side of that is that it’s also about whiskey drinking, hell raising, and skirt chasing. Very macho stuff, really, and I think Gretchen Wilson is proud that she is down home and “one of the guys.”


Ok, someone explain the appeal of professional wrestling to me. I don’t see how it’s been on for so long. It’s not the least bit entertaining.

What we know as “redneck culture” is simply a modern and American version of the agricultural tribal culture that is the same all over the world. You work hard. You drink hard (because, as Jim Goad puts it, "if you hammer nails all day, you want to get hammered after work.) Farmers and manual laborers in Russia, Italy, England, wherever, all have very old drinking traditions. It’s part of the “blue collar” tradition (which is just a modern updated version of the peasant tradition.) Take hunting, for instance. Hunting in America is viewed as a proclivity of the redneck, or at least of rural, lower-class whites (or suburban, middle class whites whose parents were rural, lower-class whites.) But what hunting really is, is a peasant tradition, a remnant of the days when humans were more connected to the land. The same goes for 4-wheeling and dirt bike riding, more “redneck” activities - they are connected to the land, specifically to the woods. This is a natural connection for humans to make.

When it comes to being “proud to be uncultured and uneducated,” this is in no way exclusive to rednecks. Why are all these frat boys named Chad and Brad whose fathers are lawyers and insurance agents spending their college years drinking, chasing tail, listening to bottom-of-the-barrel hip-hop and rock, living in garbage-strewn shitholes with red plastic cups everywhere, and being proudly anti-intellectual? Why have black youth embraced the ghetto culture where it’s a good thing to be unemployed, violent, and antisocial, and where a black kid who gets good grades could be accused of “acting white?” It’s not just rednecks. But in general, my opinion of this phenomenon is that it’s an American assertion of masculinity in the modern era where brains are preferred over brawn and the people in charge are no longer landowners and military leaders but bankers and lawyers and accountants. It’s the medieval mentality popping up in the age of the service economy.

Whew!

I will NEVER understand how people can watch television shows with laugh tracks. I am completely incapable of watching anything with a laugh track. For me it’s an insult to my intelligence by saying “we’re going to TELL you when to laugh because you might not otherwise know.” Plus, it reveals that the creators of the show aren’t even sure if people are going to laugh or not.

Truly great comedy shows, like Arrested Development, don’t need a laugh track.

Since you’re gay, let me describe it like this: You ever see a guy with a cute butt? A really cute, sexy butt? Now try to imagine if men somehow, in addition to their buttocks, had an anatomical feature that was effectively an auxillary butt, existing solely for sexual display purposes. That depending on the social circumstances, it was acceptable to cover this anatomical feature with the equivalent of anything from gossamer silk to skintight low-riding leathers to a bikini thong to occasionally nothing at all. That’s what breasts are like to straight guys.

Now what I have never understood is piercing. To me anyway, it’s not sexy, it’s not cool, it’s not even rebellious or aggressive. It doesn’t send any kind of “message” I understand.

sabatobello, you just cracked my wife up. She read the above, looked at me, and lost it. She’s still giggling. “No, not you at all.” <snerk>

Thanks loads! :stuck_out_tongue:

I was referring to my propensity to put typos in ALL my thread titles, not just this one. Hence the plural.

Wow. You make being a redneck sound fun.

I think I have a pretty good idea of why people enjoy driving over flying. Traveling by plane tends to be very stressful. You have to be at the airport at a certain time and if you miss your flight you are out of luck. This creates a sense of urgency from the time you wake up on the morning of the flight, up until the minute that you board the plane. Traffic on your way to the airport and weather delays all adds to an intense environment. If you arrive at the airport too late, the baggage check may have already been closed and in some cases you stand no chance of making it through security before departure.

There are so many things that you need to remember when you are traveling by plane. Itineraries, e-tickets (or paper tickets), photo identification and credit cards (in case you forget the tickets) are all essential to your trip. To some people this may seem like an easy task but if you are packing at the last minute and trying to coordinate several travelers, you may run into some difficulties.

To top it all off, some people are terrified of flying. Imagine all that stress and then when you finally get a chance to “relax” you start freaking out about wings and engines falling off or being eaten by creatures. Not really that fun.

Driving may take a lot longer but if you are not in a rush, then it is not a big deal. You are free to move at your own pace and you never have to worry about missing the car. Additionally, you can alter the trip plans to make stops at points of interest along the way. There is a great deal of flexibility in car travel and if the family is together, it provides for invaluable bonding time.

Now if only someone could please explain to me why people go gaga over strip clubs. I have been and I still do not understand it. It is hardly fun, you can see naked people on the Internet, they are insanely expensive and the strippers are not going to go home with you. To be honest, prostitution makes much more sense; at least with prostitutes you get a release.

Well, first of all, I like driving. I enjoy operating a motor vehicle, I like following the road, I like seeing the scenery. When I stop for gas or something to eat, I can talk to the local people and find out about their town or city or whatever. When I stop for the night, I look for a little local place to have a beer or two, and get to know more people. I’ve been from one end of Canada to the other by road (St. John’s, Newfoundland to Victoria BC, a distance of some 4500 to 5000 miles), as well as some long trips through the United States. And the people I’ve met and the places I’ve seen… I wouldn’t trade the experiences I’ve had while driving for the world.

Why prefer this over flying? Driving has no lineups to check in, no lineups to check baggage, no need to show a driver’s license to every martinet in a uniform that I encounter as I pass through the terminal. There is no security checkpoint–I can not only take some cigars on my car trip, but also my cigar cutter and lighter. And even without my cutter and lighter, I’m also always pulled over for the secondary inspection, and I’m getting pretty damn tired of it.

Additionally, when driving, I don’t have to sit between two strangers for hours at a stretch, I can listen to the music I like, and I don’t have to hope my luggage made it at the same time I did. Yes, I’ll fly if I have to, but given my druthers, I’ll drive where I need to go.


Now, what I don’t get is the popularity of college sports. I like sports, I follow pro leagues and support pro teams, but I just don’t get the zeal with which people support college sports. Who cares if Wottsamatta U is playing Wasted State, and fercryingoutloud, why is it interrupting regular TV schedules? I went to college, and I played varsity sports, but that was in the past. Why can’t people put their college days behind them; why do they continue to need to follow their alma mater’s sports pursuits?

College sports is easy. It’s generally local, so you know the place, coach, team. etc. It’s developmental, so you can see the great players in their youth, learning their craft. And, despite what the NCAA does and does not wink at concerning compensation to players, for the most part, they play for pride and pussy, not cash.
Can somebody please explain civilian Hummers. (The trucks, you pervert!) :smiley:

Many smaller market places do not have pro teams. Therefore we identify with our local universities. Also, the games can be significantly different. I love college basketball, but you couldn’t pay me to watch the NBA.

I don’t know about a brand new car, but we’re going through this analysis right now. Mrs. Pete commute about 40 miles each way to work, 5 times a week. She’s using 2 to 2.5 tanks of gas a week at $35.00 per. $70 per week times 4.5 weeks per month is about $300 per month.

If we could get a decent used car which got better mileage (wouldn’t be hard…) and cut it to one tank of gas per week that would cut our fuel cost to around $150 per month. Since we’re talking about a used car with a decent trade-in, we could expect a payment of about $150 per month. So we break even. Except we end up with a better, more fuel efficient car when it’s paid off, rather than the gas burner that we have now.

What I don’t get? Celebrity gossip/worship. Who the hell cares what these people do in their personal life. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate actors and musicians and sports stars for what they do in their professional life. But why should I care about who they’re dating/screwing/having babies with?

I’m not sure I can explain it, but for me (and I have my nose pierced and used to have my tongue too) it partially has to do with establishing a certain vibe, if you will. My family is rather conservative and would rather drop dead than have any unintentional metal in any of their parts. Furthermore, they are pretty routinely conservative. Somehow, the two can equate, although it doesn’t always.

So, briefly, this is just one little litmus test (not necessarily that said person has some/one themselves, but how they react and feel about others doing so) that allows me to easily see what all I’d like to invest in our relationship, kinda up-front. A glimpse, if you will, on where the tolerance levels lie. :o

It’s not a perfect system, but it helps on cutting down on me being easily hurt with folks who judge me. And by that I mean negatively, and unfortunately it’s usually over something as equally infinitesimal as the tiny stud in my nostril. At least, that’s just one reason… for me.


Now, what I don't get are people who post to a thread with an identical reply of someone having previously done so.  I understand not always being able to read the whole thing first, but I sometimes see this by the fourth post in!  I mean, wha??!?

Now, what I don’t get are people who post to a thread with an identical reply of someone having previously done so. I understand not always being able to read the whole thing first, but I sometimes see this by the fourth post in! I mean, wha??!?

If the posts are fairly close in time, maybe someone just takes a long time to type something? If not, maybe some folks are just so eager to share their joke/anecdote/factoid/smartass remark that they really don’t take the time to read before posting. Maybe they don’t leave the house much.
What I don’t get is time. Time is relative… I understand the words but it does not compute. People have tried to explain to me the physics of time but apparently they weren’t very good at explaining, because I never did pick up on it.

I can explain this, or at least, I’d really hope I can explain this.

Piercing has been around for ages in the form of one or two socially accepted or even mandated piercings that are seen as “normal” and to some degree an identifier of the culture: ear piercing for ladies in the west, nose piercing for ladies in India, various lip piercings in certain cultures in South America. Often it’s seen as something of a rite of passage (think of how many little girls plead to their moms that they’re “grown up” enough to wear earrings) but it can also just be another way to wear jewlry that’s normal and expected.

Now, the modern pierce-everything trend has some roots in certain subcultures getting pierced for reasons similar to the traditional as well as to differentiate themselves from the mainstream (think of a pirate’s earring, often claimed to mark their first passage over the equator as well as because it was something scandalous to the rest of society), but a lot of modern piercing did also grow out of fetishism. While it’s hard to make someone understand the appeal of a kink that doesn’t click for them, there can be a certain je ne sais quois to flesh that has been altered, that has been decorated, and is being penetrated by shiney metal. And piercings can be quite functional sexually in many different ways.

So, you have something that’s indicative of both rebellion and sexual adventurousness. Naturally, rock stars and teenagers are going to be all over it, so much so that piercings whose only function is fashion start becoming popular.

Some people have started returning to the piercing-as-rite-of-passage idea, though now it’s personal, not societal. But the vast majority of what you see is because it’s expected of the group they want to identify with and disdained by the unhip.

I’m 24 and by no mean the typical person of my age or supposed demographic, so lemme try my hand at this one:

I am brutally bad at worthwhile interpersonal human interaction with any type of person but my own. Just horrible. I can fake it, but it’s like faking an orgasm: you should be enjoying it, but you aren’t, and that just makes it even more miserable. I can do smalltalk, but I despise it. It seems like an utter waste of time. (Talking on the phone is almost as much fun.)

I’m atrocious at matching my clothes. I’d probably wear two shades of blue at once if I hadn’t been told not to. If I’m not thinking in the morning during my “What’s reasonable to wear today?” 30 seconds of debate, there’s absolutely no telling what I’ll wear. Shorts in winter? If it’s warm enough, sure.

I have a hell of a time, even after years of subjecting myself to absolute cretins in the name of forcing it to get better, controlling my temper. I pick fights sometimes without even meaning to. I can be crass, bitter, rude, short and a pompous jackass in one sentence and not even realize it, because my tone appears other than I mean it to. (This is especially fun given how much text-based communication I do.)

In short, I’m not very good at following the rules when it comes to various social niceties.

Playing Diablo 2, or whatever, what I’m wearing is usually immaterial. There, there’s a point to wearing one thing over another; if I want increased cold resistance, I put a different charm in my inventory, and if I want more magicfind, I equip my Skullder’s Ire. There’s a reason for what I’m wearing; more to the point, it’s something I can understand.

Conversing with my fellow gamers (assuming I’m playing online) is a matter of very short sentences and having to weather the occasional immature little ::checks forum:: ickyface. If someone pisses me off, I don’t have to sit there and weather it. I can leave, hostile (as in, challenge to a fight) the player or squelch (make it so I can’t hear) anyone at all. In short, I don’t have to deal with people making my life uncomfortable any more than I want to.

There is no smalltalk. There’s no “So, lovely weather we’ve been having.” People care about the drops, your gear, that sort of thing. They care about things related to the game, which you must also care about, else you wouldn’t be there. Contrast this with going to a grocery store, a necessary evil for me. I have no deep, abiding desire to see anyone at all there, and if someone starts to chat me up, a little voice goes on says, “This is so bloody boring.”

Gaming removes a hell of a lot of life’s often-necessary evils and replaces them with things that might not seem as relevant, but sure do appeal to the things I like.

There’s the issue of it being something I’m good at. I’m not good at things I don’t care about, and trying harder is going to frustrate me before it pays off enough to be worth it. But I am good at some things I do care about, and pursuing those things seems to me kinda an obvious thing; I do it because I like it, I like it because I’m good at it, and I’m good at it in part because I like it.

Lemme use another sex comparison. Let’s say you’re trying to get laid (which is not something any teenage boy has ever tried to do, to be sure). You court someone highly sought, you get a date, a kiss, etc. A month goes by (since I’ve never really dated as such, I haven’t even the most remote idea of how quickly teenagers go), and you get some under-the-shirt action. Another two months, and you’re spending time together with top and pants off.

Another two months, and the lot of the clothing is in a pile by the bed, you’re sore when you walk, and life’s ills occasionally disappear for an hour or two a day.

Now let’s say you have the manual for a game and see this ridiculous item that’s not only one of the best items in the game but really, really tough to get. You start out with almost nothing (a weapon and a shield, if you’re lucky). First you’re playing just to survive and advance. Getting that item is at least months away, unless some kind soul decides to just give you one, in which case you still probably can’t equip it yet.

But let’s say you have to work for it. You work at it for a month or more, just to get the character to the point where s/he can search for items that would give her/him a better chance of finding that item.

Finally, you find the gear you need to use to search for that item. And you have to make a new character to get more out of it. Another month or so properly building that character, all so you can do dozens of runs (think of them like dates), hoping that the skills you’ve acquired and the time you’ve put in, all of that effort, will lead to shiny newness at some point.

And then you get it. It’s beautiful and spectacular and you just stare at it for what seems to your ignorant friends like hours at a time. You’ve worked for months to get this thing, and it’s finally here. All that work. And you can use it all the bloody time. It makes your life more fun, it makes your other pursuits easier, all of that.

's that make a bit more sense? Yes, we’re working outside technical reality, but that’s often the point. And yes, having sex is (for me) more fun than finding various items, but don’t think I haven’t come across as a bit disconnected from reality due to various finds in Diablo 2:) Chronos, Who_me?, Hirka and Micah, along with the old crew (Rasa is still here, but I haven’t seen lno, Maeglin, Nen, voltaire or theckhd in ages.), would tell you otherwise, I bet, if you asked:)

Now. Anyone wanna try explaining to me why it’s 7 a.m. here and some other hour number somewhere else? Wouldn’t it make more sense for the time to be universal?

Well, without checking where “here” is, I know that the sun has likely risen for you, sleep-time is probably over, and it’s likely that in an hour or two your workday will begin.

Similarly, I can say it’s a bit past 4:00 AM here and you can know that while the sun should be rising soon, it most likely hasn’t yet, and I’m either a very early riser or keeping an unusual schedule.

Even for cultures that hold to different ideas of when it’s typical to work and sleep, time zones ideally work that our idea of when it’s light and dark share the same hours.

I do think time zones are employed rather illogically, and I think daylight savings time may well be becoming more trouble than it’s worth, but since people do tend to have roughly compatable ideas of what one does during morning, noon, evening and night across cultures, being able to say “It’s 8:31PM in Tokyo, so I can assume the day is over and the night is beginning” is a lot more useful than "Is day is over in Tokyo by 4:31AM universal time?

There were Archos Jukeboxes all over Ebay in 2003. Everybody was selling them to get the new one with video. So, sure, you’re right, they weren’t advertising on the FOX channel every night, but many popular products don’t have to do that. That’s what Apple ***has to ** * do. Like promoting it’s new line of computers based on the fact that they “come in colors.” :rolleyes: “Think different” my foot. Einstein didn’t care what color his chalk was, I’m sure.

Let me have a shot at explaining this - it’s a form of escapism, just like reading fiction. Fiction books don’t impart information, they’re not necessary. You ask why someone would spend hours doing things not real, it’s the same thing as reading a book of things that never happened. Recreation, that’s all.

I don’t get the worship thing, but sometimes I get sucked into the gossip. Celebrity gossip is the opposite of celebrity worship, since usually the gossip is bad. And people love to tear successful people down. It helps them feel better about themselves. Yeah, Brittany Spears has a million-dollar house, but OMG!! DID YOU SEE HOW TRASHY SHE LOOKED ON DATELINE!! Tom Cruise may be a talented actor, but OMG!! ISN’T HE CRAZIEST GUY IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW!! AND HE’S SOOO GAY!!

In short, we gossip because it boosts our esteems. Celebrity gossip boosts our esteems even more than regular gossip.

Now what I don’t get…naming children very common names. I don’t understand why people would name their son “John” or their daughter “Jennifer”. I don’t like wacky names either, but at least thought and creativity went into them.

Tradition, continuity and custom. They are named after ancestors, uncles, aunts, etc.

What I don’t get is the opposite. Creativity = idiocy. I’ve got news for folks who like creative names. “Tiffaanni” is going to have a much harder row to hoe because of you. So are “Freedom” and “Stopsiigne.” You want to be creative, name the dog. Leave your kid out of it! All you are doing is giving a new generation of therapists more work. Not to mention making them the butt of every joke in school and really annoying their teachers.